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July 20, 2017

Folk festival in Germany tarnished by migrant sexual assaults and rioting

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IMadepooh4U 1 day ago#1
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/18/migrants-riot-sexually-harass-women-german-folk-festival/

A German folk festival in Schorndorf in Baden-W├╝rttemberg was rocked this weekend by riots and a number of sexual assaults by men police describe as coming from migration backgrounds.

On Saturday night, police arrested three 17-year-old asylum seekers from Afghanistan who are accused of sexually harassing several women at the festival. The night before several other sex attacks were reported, both at the festival and in nearby fields with one Iraqi man identified as a suspect, Die Welt reports.

On the final night of the festival on Sunday police say that around a thousand young people gathered in the town centre, where they rioted and rampaged. Police say that close to 50 percent of the rioters came from a migrant background.



Is there anything the German government can do about these situations?
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TonyKojima 1 day ago#2
More fake news.
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EvoTech 1 day ago#3
The refugees sexually assaulting women again? News at 11
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Don't you love it when migrants show their appreciation for their new homes by revealing themselves as worthless degenerates? 

TonyKojima posted...
More fake news.

TonyKojima does!
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TonyKojima supports Cultural Enrichment of Muslim migrants into European Countries and the rest of Western Civilization.

He claims to be progressive yet denies all the bad things they do and covers for them like the typical SJW shill that he is.

He was in denial of the Cologne Germany New Year's Eve Mass Sexual Assaults for the longest time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

He makes every excuse to not do anything for the female victims.

A pathological apologist for the worst people on Earth and a hater of Western Civilization.

A Faux Patriot and a Benedict Arnold in the truest sense.

He's a giant supporter of Sharia Law and makes no claims to hide it by calling it "Progressive".
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TonyKojima 1 day ago#6
KamenRiderBlade posted...
TonyKojima supports Cultural Enrichment of Muslim migrants into European Countries and the rest of Western Civilization.

He claims to be progressive yet denies all the bad things they do and covers for them like the typical SJW shill that he is.

He was in denial of the Cologne Germany New Year's Eve Mass Sexual Assaults for the longest time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

He makes every excuse to not do anything for the female victims.

A pathological apologist for the worst people on Earth and a hater of Western Civilization.

A Faux Patriot and a Benedict Arnold in the truest sense.

lol How is fantasy land these days?
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kislev 1 day ago#7
TonyKojima posted...
More fake news.


So it's fake if it disagrees with your world view?
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TonyKojima posted...
lol How is fantasy land these days?

Nice rebuttal.
Source article
https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article166707234/Randale-und-sexuelle-Uebergriffe-bei-Volksfest.html?wtmc=socialmedia.twitter.shared.web

IMadepooh4U posted...
Is there anything the German government can do about these situations?

They have tried to remedy this problem in various instances by slut shaming women, telling women to cover up and not be so friendly to strangers
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TonyKojima posted...
lol How is fantasy land these days?
You should be looking in the mirror when asking that question.
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McDonaldTrumpX posted...
They have tried to remedy this problem in various instances by telling women to cover up and not be so friendly to strangers
Instead of the local native population being able to live freely / normally, they have to change for the influx of foreigners into their country that are not culturally compatible?
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TonyKojima posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
TonyKojima supports Cultural Enrichment of Muslim migrants into European Countries and the rest of Western Civilization.

He claims to be progressive yet denies all the bad things they do and covers for them like the typical SJW shill that he is.

He was in denial of the Cologne Germany New Year's Eve Mass Sexual Assaults for the longest time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

He makes every excuse to not do anything for the female victims.

A pathological apologist for the worst people on Earth and a hater of Western Civilization.

A Faux Patriot and a Benedict Arnold in the truest sense.

lol How is fantasy land these days?

Hear that? That cracking leading into a loud BANG? That's TonyKojima crumbling under the weight of the truth and his own bigotry.

KamenRiderBlade posted...
McDonaldTrumpX posted...
They have tried to remedy this problem in various instances by telling women to cover up and not be so friendly to strangers
Instead of the local native population being able to live freely / normally, they have to change for the influx of foreigners into their country that are not culturally compatible?

'That's PROGRESSIVENESS, BABEH!' - Some liberal dumbass.
Don't look at me like that, you cretin.
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Newhopes 1 day ago#13
Happened in Sweden at some concerts a week or so ago as well, the 2018 festival has been cancelled due to the increasing number of attacks.
Newhopes posted...
Happened in Sweden at some concerts a week or so ago as well, the 2018 festival has been cancelled due to the increasing number of attacks.
They shouldn't have to cancel it; they should be increasing security.
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Newhopes 1 day ago#15
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Newhopes posted...
Happened in Sweden at some concerts a week or so ago as well, the 2018 festival has been cancelled due to the increasing number of attacks.
They shouldn't have to cancel it; they should be increasing security.


What can security do when it's happening in the crowds where they can't see, they go around in large packs surround and isolate the woman then rape or molest them.
Newhopes posted...
What can security do when it's happening in the crowds where they can't see, they go around in large packs surround and isolate the woman then rape or molest them.
Then have Security go around looking for large packs of migrants and break them up.

Design the Concert area so there are no security camera blind spots.

Figure out ways to make sure women are secure.
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masher11 1 day ago#17
IMadepooh4U posted...
Is there anything the German government can do about these situations?


unfortunately they've let to many in, and its too late.
Wow, people from a culture that treats women like shit are treating women like shit. But yeah, disagreeing with this and not wanting them to bring their primitive views into our countries is racist, right?

If all the migrants were white their views that women should be their sex-slaves would still be garbage.
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masher11 1 day ago#19
so is this the new norm in Europe?

Sounds like Trump is what Europe needs, thankfully hes running the GOAT country.
Further evidence we need to carefully limit refugees and Muslim immigration. If we are to accept immigrants, they should be able to speak English and support themselves without any type of welfare program. If we can't perform an adequate background check, we shouldnt accept the particular applicant.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
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Ivashanko 1 day ago#21
I generally support refugees, especially because their countries issues were largely created by the Cold War Conflicts, Imperialism, and before that Turkish dominance. That being said, anyone implicated in this type of disaster needs to be sent swiftly back and never allowed to return.

Also, I find it hard to wrap my head around the insanity and stupidity of these rioting refugees. You go to another person's country and you riot there? This is not only ungrateful, it is too stupid to live
Ivashanko posted...
because their countries issues were largely created by the Cold War Conflicts, Imperialism, and before that Turkish dominance.


True, but I dont want what's happening in Europe to happen in the US. Like you said, they dont seem to be grateful. They dont seem to want to assimilate.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
Ivashanko 1 day ago#23
True, but I dont want what's happening in Europe to happen in the US. Like you said, they dont seem to be grateful. They dont seem to want to assimilate.


I think you could probably collect a data base and give extra chances to people most likely to assimilate. I'm not sure what that kind of person would look like, however.
KamenRiderBlade posted...
TonyKojima supports Cultural Enrichment of Muslim migrants into European Countries and the rest of Western Civilization.

He claims to be progressive yet denies all the bad things they do and covers for them like the typical SJW shill that he is.

He was in denial of the Cologne Germany New Year's Eve Mass Sexual Assaults for the longest time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

He makes every excuse to not do anything for the female victims.

A pathological apologist for the worst people on Earth and a hater of Western Civilization.

A Faux Patriot and a Benedict Arnold in the truest sense.

He's a giant supporter of Sharia Law and makes no claims to hide it by calling it "Progressive".

He is also a troll, an accusation to which he will respond "lol"
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Ivashanko posted...
I think you could probably collect a data base and give extra chances to people most likely to assimilate. I'm not sure what that kind of person would look like, however.


Probably college educated, able to speak English, etc.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
TonyKojima posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
TonyKojima supports Cultural Enrichment of Muslim migrants into European Countries and the rest of Western Civilization.

He claims to be progressive yet denies all the bad things they do and covers for them like the typical SJW shill that he is.

He was in denial of the Cologne Germany New Year's Eve Mass Sexual Assaults for the longest time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

He makes every excuse to not do anything for the female victims.

A pathological apologist for the worst people on Earth and a hater of Western Civilization.

A Faux Patriot and a Benedict Arnold in the truest sense.

lol How is fantasy land these days?

Lol triggered
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OffDogs 1 day ago#27
They were arrested, it's only fair to judge Germany based on what happens to them next.
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fudrick 1 day ago#28
TheHonorableOne posted...
Ivashanko posted...
I think you could probably collect a data base and give extra chances to people most likely to assimilate. I'm not sure what that kind of person would look like, however.


Probably college educated, able to speak English, etc.


College-educated muslims from muslim countries don't exactly have the best track record of not being "extremists"
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ronjamin1022 posted...
He is also a troll, an accusation to which he will respond "lol"
He's a SJW Liberal / MSM stooge / Shillary Arse kisser.
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The answer is clearly to bring in even more economic migrants. Instead of removing them.
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Ubersuntzu 1 day ago#32
Ivashanko posted...
I generally support refugees, especially because their countries issues were largely created by the Cold War Conflicts, Imperialism, and before that Turkish dominance. That being said, anyone implicated in this type of disaster needs to be sent swiftly back and never allowed to return.

Also, I find it hard to wrap my head around the insanity and stupidity of these rioting refugees. You go to another person's country and you riot there? This is not only ungrateful, it is too stupid to live


B-b-but I was told they were smart people who had the entrepreneurial spirit...
Ubersuntzu 1 day ago#33
fudrick posted...
TheHonorableOne posted...
Ivashanko posted...
I think you could probably collect a data base and give extra chances to people most likely to assimilate. I'm not sure what that kind of person would look like, however.


Probably college educated, able to speak English, etc.


College-educated muslims from muslim countries don't exactly have the best track record of not being "extremists"


Indeed. It's usually the middle class, 2nd generation and later Muslims who take to it the most because they aren't struggling and now have enough free time to worry about being alienated and offended by Western Decadence.
fudrick posted...
College-educated muslims from muslim countries don't exactly have the best track record of not being "extremists"


I agree. But if we have to accept some as opposed to banning all Muslim immigrants, I thought that would be a good starting point. I agree we should limit immigration though.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
IMadepooh4U 22 hours ago#35
Ivashanko posted...
anyone implicated in this type of disaster needs to be sent swiftly back and never allowed to return.


Along with their families.
The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks. It is because I alone, of all the Greeks, know that I know nothing- Socrates
OffDogs 22 hours ago#36
IMadepooh4U posted...
Ivashanko posted...
anyone implicated in this type of disaster needs to be sent swiftly back and never allowed to return.


Along with their families.

And aquaintences
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We should honestly strip citizenship from anyone found guilty of terrorism, especially if they are found connected to organizations like ISIS, Hezbollah, etc.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
Alesandros 20 hours ago#38
TheHonorableOne posted...
We should honestly strip citizenship from anyone found guilty of terrorism, especially if they are found connected to organizations like ISIS, Hezbollah, etc.


No, I wouldn't go so far as to strip citizenship of US citizens found guilty of terrorism. That is just a stones throw away of potentially using it as a means to dispense summary justice without certain constitutional considerations/safeguards.

I understand the outrage, but I'd have individuals guilty of terrorism, treason, aiding/abetting enemies of the US, etc be subjected to the current legal system and sentencing guidelines.

I'd be looking at some serious asset-seizure and jail time, and life imprisonment or capital punishment for extreme cases.
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OffDogs 20 hours ago#39
Alesandros posted...
TheHonorableOne posted...
We should honestly strip citizenship from anyone found guilty of terrorism, especially if they are found connected to organizations like ISIS, Hezbollah, etc.


No, I wouldn't go so far as to strip citizenship of US citizens found guilty of terrorism. That is just a stones throw away of potentially using it as a means to dispense summary justice without certain constitutional considerations/safeguards.

I understand the outrage, but I'd have individuals guilty of terrorism, treason, aiding/abetting enemies of the US, etc be subjected to the current legal system and sentencing guidelines.

I'd be looking at some serious asset-seizure and jail time, and life imprisonment or capital punishment for extreme cases.

You just have to trust the government to not abused the label terrorist.....lmfao
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I will fight socialism til hell freezes over, then I will fight on the ice.
Alesandros posted...
That is just a stones throw away of potentially using it as a means to dispense summary justice without certain constitutional considerations/safeguards.


You have the process backwards. They would be afforded all Constitutional safeguards. Then, if found guilty, they would be stripped of citizenship. They could spend life in prison in Guantanamo Bay or executed.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
GetStumped 20 hours ago#41
just think, without Trump we wouldn't have western civilization anymore. thank god for Trump thank god.
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Alesandros 19 hours ago#42
TheHonorableOne posted...
Alesandros posted...
That is just a stones throw away of potentially using it as a means to dispense summary justice without certain constitutional considerations/safeguards.


You have the process backwards. They would be afforded all Constitutional safeguards. Then, if found guilty, they would be stripped of citizenship. They could spend life in prison in Guantanamo Bay or executed.


So if I understand you correctly, the loss of citizenship would essentially be a "punishment" after the appropriate legal/constitutional avenues have been taken? After the accused had been found guilty of said crime "beyond a reasonable doubt"?

I don't know... the rights and privileges afforded to US citizens being revoked in bulk seems cruel and unusual in of itself to me. Once citizenship has been stripped, what are they considered? They would lose certain appellate rights at the very least once sentencing has been enacted.

*I don't mind having the ability of people to renounce their citizenship, but for the US government to hold the ability to revoke it just seems to be in conflict with the US paradigm itself.

I know you and I have similar beliefs on some issues; I'm just very wary about this proposal without extensive justification and an extreme tailoring.
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zDonKEY_K0ngz 19 hours ago#43
not even gonna read the article because Breitbart is a fucking joke, but I will say this about the migrant issue in Germany right now:

I understand the humanity behind letting in thousands of refugees from war-torn countries, but there absolutely has to be a limit to how many are let in, and the well-being and best interests of the citizens of Germany should absolutely 100% take precedence over that of foreign migrants. The fact that Merkel is letting in uncapped amounts of them is signaling that she values appearing humane and "accepting" over the well-being of her own citizens, and thus she is not doing her job to represent the best interests of her constituents and fight for their protection. 

This is one of the few issues where I side with the right more than the left, and I'm very grateful that I live in the US where our immigrant and migrant vetting process is extremely tedious and thorough. I understand that these people are suffering and we need to help them out as much as we can, but dear god don't just open the flood-gates for everyone and their mother to come in like Germany is doing. I value Western culture greatly and don't want to see it erode over my lifetime in my own country, so I can't imagine how German nationals feel about this.
IMadepooh4U 18 hours ago#44
GetStumped posted...
just think, without Trump we wouldn't have western civilization anymore. thank god for Trump thank god.


Indeed. The West was teetering on the brink, and President Trump pulled it back by the collar.
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Alesandros posted...
I don't know... the rights and privileges afforded to US citizens being revoked in bulk seems cruel and unusual in of itself to me. Once citizenship has been stripped, what are they considered? They would lose certain appellate rights at the very least once sentencing has been enacted.
Given 2x choices:

Getting tortured enless for 10+ years at a Black Site?

vs

Losing Citizenship and being booted out of the country & dropped somewhere else on Earth in a Random Country. while being BlackListed from your original Country that you had Citizenship.


I'll take being kicked out over getting tortured in a Gitmo or other BlackSite anyday of the week.
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Alesandros posted...
So if I understand you correctly, the loss of citizenship would essentially be a "punishment" after the appropriate legal/constitutional avenues have been taken? After the accused had been found guilty of said crime "beyond a reasonable doubt"?


Yes. Also, they would have the right to the appellate process as that would count as part of their Constitutional safeguards. 

Also, they could just serve life in prison at Guantanamo. I suppose this would largely be symbolic. Perhaps all convicted of terrorism should go to Guantanamo or other off-shore prisons.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
Alesandros 10 hours ago#47
@TheHonorableOne

I just still see it as a potential instrument of government tyranny. What would it accomplish that our current legal system doesn't? I still don't see the benefit.

@KamenRiderBlade

Where would they go? Who would take them? What right would the US have in dropping off a US terrorist to a foreign nation? Often times, a terrorist organization isn't aligned with a nation. I don't see how we would justify that.
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masher11 10 hours ago#48
GetStumped posted...
just think, without Trump we wouldn't have western civilization anymore. thank god for Trump thank god.


yep, if Clinton won she wanted to open the refugee floodgates becoming Americas Merkel and turning America into Germany in the process.
UltimaXOmega 9 hours ago#49
Meanwhile Japan,Poland,Hungary and South Korea's streets remain peaceful. 
I'm guessing the other 50% of rioters were Antifa?
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Alesandros posted...
Where would they go? Who would take them? What right would the US have in dropping off a US terrorist to a foreign nation? Often times, a terrorist organization isn't aligned with a nation. I don't see how we would justify that.
You would obviously notify the government of the Foreign Nation, before handing them over.
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    Alesandros 3 hours ago#51
    KamenRiderBlade posted...
    Alesandros posted...
    Where would they go? Who would take them? What right would the US have in dropping off a US terrorist to a foreign nation? Often times, a terrorist organization isn't aligned with a nation. I don't see how we would justify that.
    You would obviously notify the government of the Foreign Nation, before handing them over.


    But how would we decide to which country we'd be passing the buck to?
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    Alesandros posted...
    But how would we decide to which country we'd be passing the buck to?
    That's beyond my pay grade, that's for the State Department to figure out.
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    ZeroX91 3 hours ago#53
    KamenRiderBlade posted...
    Newhopes posted...
    What can security do when it's happening in the crowds where they can't see, they go around in large packs surround and isolate the woman then rape or molest them.
    Then have Security go around looking for large packs of migrants and break them up.

    Design the Concert area so there are no security camera blind spots.

    Figure out ways to make sure women are secure.

    Yea just put them in a separate safe area...or give them special orange safety ponchos.
    Yahaha! You found me!
    ZeroX91 posted...
    Yea just put them in a separate safe area...or give them special orange safety ponchos.
    If you can come up with a better idea that doesn't require canceling the Folk festival, I'm all for it.
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    ZeroX91 3 hours ago#55
    I mean if a teen to 30 something is coming without family, that isn't gay or a widow, they aren't refugee's they are economic migrants and should be classified as such.
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    ZeroX91 3 hours ago#56
    KamenRiderBlade posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    Yea just put them in a separate safe area...or give them special orange safety ponchos.
    If you can come up with a better idea that doesn't require canceling the Folk festival, I'm all for it.

    Seating directly tied to tickets, keep ticket sales at a set number of people you can safely manage, have the option to stream the festival, hire people to take down any streams of the festival that isn't being streamed by the festival itself, encourage streaming parties at local venues, single person porta potties with high security, sell tons of swag....you know treat it like a huge concert...sure slightly less fun...way more options than cancel or segregate though.
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    ZeroX91 posted...
    Seating directly tied to tickets, keep ticket sales at a set number of people you can safely manage, have the option to stream the festival, hire people to take down any streams of the festival that isn't being streamed by the festival itself, encourage streaming parties at local venues, single person porta potties with high security, sell tons of swag....you know treat it like a huge concert...sure slightly less fun...way more options than cancel or segregate though.
    Sounds like a viable solution.
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    masher11 2 hours ago#58
    ZeroX91 posted...
    I mean if a teen to 30 something is coming without family, that isn't gay or a widow, they aren't refugee's they are economic migrants and should be classified as such.


    exactly this.

    Europe and the left in general have been hoodwinked by this refugee crisis.
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