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April 19, 2017

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    dubman012 1 month ago#1
    Are you against free speech? 

    Generally curious. That a lot of people who think they are anti-establishment want to do everything in their power to silence these people...
    DragonBlood87 1 month ago#2
    Because they're liars. /thread
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    zerooo0 1 month ago#3
    DragonBlood87 posted...
    Because they're liars. /thread


    And nutjobs

    Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.
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    dubman012 1 month ago#4
    zerooo0 posted...
    DragonBlood87 posted...
    Because they're liars. /thread


    And nutjobs

    Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.


    Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.
    Voidgolem 1 month ago#5
    hate is a strong label to apply to mockery of people who've made a career out of making idiots of themselves.
    Caster 1 month ago#6
    This is probably what it felt like at the collapse of the USSR. "You said communists are bad! *punchpunch* Hitler!"
    hoax123 1 month ago#7
    I dont hate either one of them. Alex Jones is hilarious, though it is because he is nuts, but still.
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    fantasticdave 1 month ago#9
    Not against free speech, but anyone one who thinks Alex Jones isn't a lunatic has problems

    Also, MIlo is just trying to make money and stay in the spot light. He doesn't believe half the stuff he says and like Jones has made money from a lot silly people. The results of this are not harmless as there is now a disproportionate hatred of 1.3 billion people on the planet because of their religious beliefs and half of America think they need to be armed to the teeth. The results are escalating world tensions and loads of americans being killed by themselves
    Notti 1 month ago#10
    fantasticdave posted...
    Not against free speech, but anyone one who thinks Alex Jones isn't a lunatic has problems

    Also, MIlo is just trying to make money and stay in the spot light. He doesn't believe half the stuff he says and like Jones has made money from a lot silly people. The results of this are not harmless as there is now a disproportionate hatred of 1.3 billion people on the planet because of their religious beliefs and half of America think they need to be armed to the teeth. The results are escalating world tensions and loads of americans being killed by themselves


    All great reasons to be against Jones and Milo.
    Wandering__Hero 1 month ago#11
    Milo would be a good professional troll but unlike Anita Sarkesian he doesn't know when to just shut up and let his enemies make fools of themselves. He was doing great till he pulled an Alsion Rapp
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    Byuusetsu 1 month ago#12
    They're both garbage and they're so "anti-establishment" they're BFFs with the current President. Actually Jones is probably the fakest "anti-establishment" guy there is since he claims the government has committed half the major terrorist attacks and false flag shootings on one hand yet still tends to support most Republicans. 

    Milo is a despicable troll who got known by piggybacking off a dumbass fake scandal and spends most of his time getting people harassed. 

    Neither should be banned from talking but both suck and don't deserve any notoriety.
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    hoax123 1 month ago#13
    Byuusetsu posted...
    They're both garbage and they're so "anti-establishment" they're BFFs with the current President. Actually Jones is probably the fakest "anti-establishment" guy there is since he claims the government has committed half the major terrorist attacks and false flag shootings on one hand yet still tends to support most Republicans. 

    Milo is a despicable troll who got known by piggybacking off a dumbass fake scandal and spends most of his time getting people harassed. 

    Neither should be banned from talking but both suck and don't deserve any notoriety.


    I mean, Alex Jones used to be quite anti-Israel a few years back, now it is a totally different tune. He changes his position as it suits him.
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    Caster 1 month ago#14
    Alex Jones has never supported a Republican before (except Ron Paul) so that's a lie.
    The_Undying_84 1 month ago#15
    dubman012 posted...
    zerooo0 posted...
    DragonBlood87 posted...
    Because they're liars. /thread


    And nutjobs

    Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.


    Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.


    Yes I can. I'm not the government, I can silence anyone I want and it has no bearing on the first amendment.
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    hoax123 1 month ago#16
    Caster posted...
    Alex Jones has never supported a Republican before (except Ron Paul) so that's a lie.


    He supported Ted Cruz early in the primaries, so thats a lie.
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    fantasticdave 1 month ago#17
    Pre-Trump Alex Jones = 'the government is responsible for everything'

    Now 'Trump and his government are the saviours of the world and I will never say anything against them'
    Caster 1 month ago#18
    hoax123 posted...
    Caster posted...
    Alex Jones has never supported a Republican before (except Ron Paul) so that's a lie.

    He supported Ted Cruz early in the primaries, so thats a lie.

    Fine by me, Ted's a patriot. It was still wrong that he usually supports Republicans.
    crillgamer 1 month ago#19
    I don't pay attention to either. Alex I think is a fraud. The only thing about Milo was that Berkeley incident. Trying to silence opposing opinions really worries me.
    DeadCellReborn 1 month ago#20
    Milo- he raped kids

    Alex Jones- Republicans are stupid enough to believe what he says
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    ALIEN_WORK2HOP 1 month ago#21
    I am against stupidity
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    NeoLuddism 1 month ago#22
    You can be in favor of free speech but still dislike conspiracy theorist lunatics like Alex Jones. I don't feel very strongly about Milo.
    RoyalDroneX 1 month ago#23
    dubman012 posted...
    Are you against free speech? 

    Generally curious. That a lot of people who think they are anti-establishment want to do everything in their power to silence these people...

    milo's a smug little s*** who gets off at pushing people's buttons. he's gotten what happens when you push said button and you're not immune to the criticsm
    Alex Jones is a grade A fearmonger who's nothing more than a sheep who wants to have his way
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    Russian Rocket 1 month ago#24
    dubman012 posted...
    zerooo0 posted...
    DragonBlood87 posted...
    Because they're liars. /thread


    And nutjobs

    Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.


    Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.


    Sure you can.
    Porunga 1 month ago#25
    There are limits to free speech. You cannot yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded room, you cannot threaten to kill someone. I believe that those limits also apply to speech that harms others either by inciting violence, hate and fear, or advocating illegal activities. People may disagree with me, but that is how I feel. People like Jones and Milo should not be allowed to say the things they do on a public forum.
    crillgamer 1 month ago#26
    Porunga posted...
    There are limits to free speech. You cannot yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded room, you cannot threaten to kill someone. I believe that those limits also apply to speech that harms others either by inciting violence, hate and fear, or advocating illegal activities. People may disagree with me, but that is how I feel. People like Jones and Milo should not be allowed to say the things they do on a public forum.


    Then we should ban tabloid magazines as well. I really don't know what Milo talks about. Just heard about the Berkeley incident. Alex Jones is tabloid journalism.
    Porunga 1 month ago#27
    crillgamer posted...
    Porunga posted...
    There are limits to free speech. You cannot yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded room, you cannot threaten to kill someone. I believe that those limits also apply to speech that harms others either by inciting violence, hate and fear, or advocating illegal activities. People may disagree with me, but that is how I feel. People like Jones and Milo should not be allowed to say the things they do on a public forum.


    Then we should ban tabloid magazines as well. I really don't know what Milo talks about. Just heard about the Berkeley incident. Alex Jones is tabloid journalism.

    Yes, we should.
    Carmelo 1 month ago#28
    No love at all for Milo and glad he crashed and burned. He was a blatantly sexist troll who stirred up the worst in the dregs of humanity. The fact that he was gay and jewish and used it as a cover to basically say he could get away with anything makes him even worse.
    crillgamer 1 month ago#29
    The_Undying_84 posted...
    dubman012 posted...
    zerooo0 posted...
    DragonBlood87 posted...
    Because they're liars. /thread


    And nutjobs

    Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.


    Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.


    Yes I can. I'm not the government, I can silence anyone I want and it has no bearing on the first amendment.


    And if they refuse to be silent? Kick his ass?
    Hyena 20 1 month ago#30
    dubman012 posted...
    zerooo0 posted...
    DragonBlood87 posted...
    Because they're liars. /thread


    And nutjobs

    Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.


    Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.


    Yes, you can when it pertains to private companies. You see, the first amendment doesn't just include freedom of speech or religion. It also includes freedom of association. In other words, private entities have the right to say "I don't want to do business with you."
    Trump, of course, thinks differently, insists that Macys dropping his clothing line for the racist crap he said about illegals violates and suppresses his freedom of speech.

    Reminder: the first amendment of the US constitution, which gives no allowances for abridgement, includes freedom of speech, religion, assembly, the press, and association.
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    Sir Will 1 month ago#31
    Freedom of speech is protection from the government, it doesn't guarantee you a platform or shield you from backlash.
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    infinitys_7th 1 month ago#32
    I love Milo - he is like my best friend growing up, except British and gay. We were both massive trolls at school and in local politics.

    Alex is great entertainment, and I love his heart.
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    crillgamer 1 month ago#33
    Personally I enjoy hearing opposing opinions. It makes me think what truth they hold if any. I was raised that way I guess.
    SaikyoStyle 1 month ago#34
    I don't think about them enough to hate them.
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    Ellesarien 1 month ago#36
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    spankymcfister 1 month ago#37
    dubman012 posted...
    Are you against free speech? 

    Generally curious. That a lot of people who think they are anti-establishment want to do everything in their power to silence these people...

    I hate people who talk about them
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    Lord_of_BeefDip 1 month ago#38
    dubman012 posted...
    zerooo0 posted...
    DragonBlood87 posted...
    Because they're liars. /thread


    And nutjobs

    Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.


    Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.


    False equivalence. You assume that just because we don't like them that we don't want them to be allowed to speak. Which if you like Trump, comes across as projection.
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    Caster 1 month ago#39
    Not everyone who doesn't like them doesn't support their free speech, but people should understand how coordinated media smear campaigns threaten free speech, even though it bypasses the First Amendment.
    DeathMagnetic80 1 month ago#40
    Alex Jones is a raving lunatic and Milo is a gutter tier troll that found an audience. I can think they're both pretty worthless and not "hate freedom of speech". They have every right to be repugnant, and I have every right to think they are repugnant.
    Lord_of_BeefDip 1 month ago#41
    Caster posted...
    Not everyone who doesn't like them doesn't support their free speech, but people should understand how coordinated media smear campaigns threaten free speech, even though it bypasses the First Amendment.


    You don't really need a smear campaign to discredit Alex Jones.

    He does that well enough on his own.
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    Yo_D_oY 1 month ago#42
    DeadCellReborn posted...
    Milo- he raped kids


    No. He spoke a bit in a 4-hour podcast a while back about his early gay experiences with older men when he was between 15 and 17 years old. He never diddled kids. 

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    Caster 1 month ago#43
    Lord_of_BeefDip posted...
    Caster posted...
    Not everyone who doesn't like them doesn't support their free speech, but people should understand how coordinated media smear campaigns threaten free speech, even though it bypasses the First Amendment.


    You don't really need a smear campaign to discredit Alex Jones.

    He does that well enough on his own.

    Didn't seem to stop them from trying.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=alex+jones&tbm=nws

    Note that this is all probably to deflect from Infowars being delisted from AdSense the other day.
    Yo_D_oY 1 month ago#44
    Carmelo posted...
    No love at all for Milo and glad he crashed and burned. He was a blatantly sexist troll who stirred up the worst in the dregs of humanity. The fact that he was gay and jewish and used it as a cover to basically say he could get away with anything makes him even worse.

    He used him being gay that he isn't homophobic like some people claimed he was. He said that loving black men most shows he can't really be a racist when he faced backlash for not advocating BLM.

    He just has opinions some people find a bit controversial or even wrong. Doesn't mean he should be silenced.

    The fact he gains more and more followers each day shows that his message is real. There is a thirst in society for ending political correctness.
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    Sir Will 1 month ago#45
    Yo_D_oY posted...
    He used him being gay that he isn't homophobic like some people claimed he was.

    But he is.

    Yo_D_oY posted...
    The fact he gains more and more followers each day shows that his message is real. There is a thirst in society for ending political correctness.

    Shows there are a lot of dangerous idiots out there like him.
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    Caster 1 month ago#46
    Sir Will posted...
    dangerous

    Milo, stop promoting your book.
    infinitys_7th 1 month ago#47
    Caster posted...
    Sir Will posted...
    dangerous

    Milo, stop promoting your book.


    That reminds me, I need to preorder it.
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    mustachedmystic 1 month ago#48
    I don't hate them, nor do I want to take away their freedom of expression, however I do actively ignore them.
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    action52 1 month ago#49
    Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.

    However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.
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    SPMcGuilicutty 1 month ago#50
    Caster posted...
    This is probably what it felt like at the collapse of the USSR.

    Are you saying that capitalism is about to collapse?
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      The topic title ascribes much too strong of an emotion.
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      DragonBlood87 1 month ago#53
      dubman012 posted...
      Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.

      I absolutely can believe in freedom of speech without thinking that either of those two should be given a public platform for their speech. They can say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that they need to be given positions as journalists or radio hosts to spread their bulls*** even further.
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      dubman012 1 month ago#54
      DragonBlood87 posted...
      dubman012 posted...
      Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.

      I absolutely can believe in freedom of speech without thinking that either of those two should be given a public platform for their speech. They can say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that they need to be given positions as journalists or radio hosts to spread their bulls*** even further.


      What is 1 thing Milo has said that is BS?
      Notti 1 month ago#55
      action52 posted...
      Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.

      However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.


      Most shouldn't. But people like to think they are in on secret truths, red pilled, etc.
      Jaghave 1 month ago#56
      Notti posted...
      action52 posted...
      Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.

      However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.


      Most shouldn't. But people like to think they are in on secret truths, red pilled, etc.


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      Notti 1 month ago#57
      Jaghave posted...
      Notti posted...
      action52 posted...
      Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.

      However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.


      Most shouldn't. But people like to think they are in on secret truths, red pilled, etc.


      S&S already paid Milo with a hug signing bonus


      1) I'm aware of the advance.

      2) And how is that somehow a reply to me mocking the so called "red pillness" of Jones followers?
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