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June 30, 2017

ETH Contracts (What Are?)

What are the limitations of Ethereum's contracts? What can they actually enforce? How can they be tied to physical assets? It doesn't make any sense to me.
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>>2663934 (OP)
>doesnt understand how money works
then go back to /leftypol/
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>>2663966
you can't even answer the question

maybe you ought to put mom's credit card away
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>>2663934 (OP)
I found a whale. Please pump coins.
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are Ethereum contracts enforceable in court?
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>>2664042
>decentralized, uncontrollable contracts created outside the state
>enforced by the state
what did he mean by this?
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It sounds like they intend on using 'oracles' (remote servers with an API) to provide these smart contracts with information about the outside world.

Is it just me or does this sound like completely retarded bullshit? Oracles being hacked, going down, reporting misinformation, etc. Don't tell me it's fucking secure either because it runs in a VM: browsers get exploited all the time by Javascript.

A cryptocurrency should be just that: a currency. I hate this philosophy of trying to pack all these features into one package.

The above combined with the fact that they've had several hard forks due to hacks shows me these guys are a bunch of pussies. I've made up my mind: I'm never buying eth. Enjoy your shitcoin you fucking losers.
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>>2663934 (OP)
The biggest limitation is they only can access information that's already on the chain. Once you want to to fancy shit you need extern information from third parties. Which makes the whole point of decentralized smart contracts somewhat moot.

I think they won't be as useful as many people hope. Most of the fancy shit is just unfit for smart contracts and better for centralized systems.
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>>2664279
If said oracles are dapps, going down and reporting misinformation should become less risky. A DAO 2.0 hack though, could be disastrous... but then again, you can just fork eth and roll everything back lol. Actually, I'm only half joking. For institutional investors this is a feature.
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>>2664279
Ethereum is a really shitty first attempt at wide scale computing. I think the currency aspect of it is really just a stock for the company and because it can be traded, it will retain some sort of value people are willing to pay for. And it has value because people believe it will go up.

Whether or not Ethereum is good as a currency is almost asking a wrong question. Eth, gas, wei, whatever, is/was designed to be a way of regulation resources between distributed nodes that run code. Mining would be a way of contributing to the network and the reward is more potential resources.

For traders ethereum is a store of value. But from what I get out of the whole project is that ether is a store of potential resources.

By all means, trade a way, there is a shit ton of money to be made. But the bigger picture is that this is a single, slow, start on widespread computing. In the next few decades the field will grow and the technology will change. Eth right now can only handle 10-20 transactions a second. This is synonymous with the giant machines of early computing.

Once a system becomes good enough to run arbitrarily code of arbitrary size, efficiently, we're going to see some massive gains to computer power that we can't even fathom

Eth might turn out to be a meme, but distributed probably wont be.
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There's no point to any of it. Bitcoin made it easier to buy drugs without the money being traced to your identity. Why would you pay for something legal with a crypto rather than regular money?

It's a ponzi scheme. Eventually we're all going to try to cash out at the top
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>>2664557
Banks literally cream themselves over smart contracts. Google BBVA smart contract

the ETH wars (revise)

ETH can't pass $310 resistance (previous support, now resistance).

Seller volume has been way too high and outpacing buyers. All morning (look at the MACD in correlation wil volume from the last 8 hours). BTC is also falling after being rejected from it's most recent ATH and and resistance line and ETH is following.

Protip: Sell now and buy back at $280 to $250 for quick short gains on the way down and up... Trade with margin if feeling like a crack addict.
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>>2659354 (OP)
at some point the FUDding gets so loud it hurts

I just bought more ETH

Irrational > rational in this market

HODL BOYS WE'RE GOING TO DA MEME MOON
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>>2659354 (OP)
ETH has shit gain potetional unless you have 100+ ETH or bought in early
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>>2659400
i want you to lose all your money
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>>2659354 (OP)
Good luck with those shorts homo
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>>2659430
>he doesn't short a bull market on margin

why even live?
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Weekend will be very bearish, watch.
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what about shorting eth that you own.

you'll have no liquidation price, just lost profits if it does moon
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>>2659354 (OP)
Today is the first time I invested into this crypto jew buying into BC and ETH.
See you in a year when I post my gains.
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>>2659400
You don't have to listen to me, Anon. This is just my TA from being glued to ETH (and other) charts for the past week in a cryptocurrency addiction state. I'm up over 300% from margin trading on the dip and then uptrend again, mainly on support and fib lines in correlation volume and market sentiment, as well as some meme triangle trend line fun.

Enjoy your FOMO, though. BUY AT $300!..Then panic sell at $200. Then, you are /biz/.
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>>2659460
All I can say then, is HODL. Even in a very large drop, it is very unlikely it cross under the $220 support line for momentarily. Do not panic sell. HODL! It will go back up and you only lose money if you sell high, buy low. Expect the short term uptrend to resume in $250 to $280 range.
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>>2659501
will do anon

but first could you teach my fib lines? can I show them on cryptowatch or bittrex?
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>>2659532
>It will go back up and you only lose money if you sell high, buy low

teach me your ways
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>>2659501
>>2659532

godspeed anon

do you discord?
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>>2659538
Just google terms and learn about them. They're not terribly complex if you understand math and patterns.

Here is a nice summary of some basic stuff from a slightly annoying youtube user. Ignore his shilling, but take in the info. Also, Coinigy for a good tool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTnFoR-ro_M [Embed]
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>>2659547

moot-agreed#4856
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Goddammit, OP was right. Why do I always buy high! I'm losing so much money! Help Anon!
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>>2659563
would you say this is relatively accurate, a retracement to 2400?
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>>2659400
You'll be fine if you just buy and hodl but you're going to lose in the short term on the upcoming dip
You'll be fine in the long run though, don't worry about it
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I bought 250 @ $200
selling only if it falls below $240
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>tfw I thought I bought the dip but the dip came days later and went way lower
Compared to the happenings of the week so far the "dip" I thought I bought is next to ATH.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>2659354 (OP)
The chinks moved on to ant shares. Digits confirm.
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>>2659775
I still can't believe I thought $390 was the dip.

Like what the fuck
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>>2659354 (OP)
Are you the anon who posted against ETH earlier? Also I hope you're not paying for coinigy.
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>>2659833
We're likely gonna be bear for a bit longer overall on the overall market. A relatively small correction less than a week long doesn't account for the massive, massive bull run we've had since May.

If you wanna make money, either buy incrementally along the different dips, selling your higher priced shares during recovery periods where we pass old fib/support lines, or just buy incrementally at the dips and HODL until we get uptrend again.

If you want THE BIG MONEY, but also potential big FUUUUUUUU, leverage trade incrementally closing holdings on support lines following the overall trend. Don't open a margin or close on a loss on emotion and be careful of your margin calls.
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>>2659923
Oh, and don't margin trade more than you're willing to lose in case of margin call. Also stop losses.
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>>2659833
I thought I got a good deal at $350.
And not only that; after buying in I had no more fiat left to buy the actual dip.
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>>2659874

No, I am. Thread is still up
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>>2659923
>had since May
fucking kek.

You are a newfag who just got here in May yes? You know nothing about how this market works yet.
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>>2660001
The market works in cycles, you cuck. We're currently in the one which really elevated on May 24th.
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>>2660001
hes talking about the market you dickhead, the market has had a bullrun in may the bull market since start of 2017 doesn't count because its a fart against what came in may

GTFO with you "oh i'm such an oldfag" bs, how can one feel entitled about beeing on fucking 4chan anyway
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>>2660317
Thanks for the defense, but he's newfags must get stomped...This aint reddit, Tumblr, or Neopets forums, friendo. You must lurk for at least 3 years before you start posting.

Also, mah meme triangles
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>>2660341
Can you teach me how you calculate when to buy senpai?
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>>2659354 (OP)
yes ... help us drop the ETH price goy ... SELL

>rubbinghands.jpg
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Feels comfy to have a caught a local peak before the drop
Stop-loss in place, will be moved down gradually
See you at the bottom :)
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>looking at the hourly chart for market direction

ISHYGDDT
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>>2661865
is that the whaleclub "broker"?
have you ever tried to withdraw anything? i was checking it out but i've got bad vibes, they say they are based in HK but nowhere there's a regulation number or anything, not even an address. seems a bucket shop
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Ethereum holders in a week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiXS_jjJYY8 [Embed]
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>>2661964
No,
That's Bitfinex and I withdraw regularly
Zero issues
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>>2661964
>>2662002
I don't know Whaleclub but maybe they use the same provider (TradingView) for the graphs, as many do, which might remind you of it
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>>2659354 (OP)
Any richfag willing to kindly hand me from 0.1 to 1 ETH for free to help me get into the crypto world ?

0x97df4fa3448e9c2e7fc32ae308c749398815160e
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>This thread again

Its going horizontal at $300, no you wont get a killer short by spreading fear on /biz/ there isn't enough money here to even influence the market so stop wasting your time.
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>>2662060
>Its going horizontal at $300
:^)
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>>2662178
It's being forced down through a small number of sales, it's artificial
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>>2662178
>>2662060
Just wait until it does it's ADC correction down to $190


>he though this was over
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>>2662195
>$190
God, yes, please :)
I shorted 200 ETH at around $305
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>>2662187
See, now they buy it all back up to where they want to sell it at
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>>2662178
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>>2662233
No, it's just forced up through a small number of buys, it's artificial
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>>2659400
You'll profit eventually, but for now we're in a bear market. I see this lasting at least couple more weeks. I respect you for holding through this, but don't pretend we're on our way to the moon right now.
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>>2659426
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>>2662241

Do you have lube m8?
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>>2663419
he doesnt need it, its not going below his purchase price. I think itll find support in the 260s. I doubt it'll go below 200, Id be very surprised if it did
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Back down to 250 boys

Then 200 is possible if no buyers
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>>2663419
>>2663457
>>2662241
oh SHIT nvm. 169 is the amount, I thought that was the price in dollars. Nvm. Im just now looking at the ETH/BTC chart.....ya....he's gonna get rekt.
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>>2663419
>>2663457
>>2663484

God you poorfags are annoying

Check the timestamps, It instantly went to 0.1171 and I cashed out for around ~$900 profit. I simply capitalize on you faggots thinking you're playing the market with your margin shorts overselling and riding the wave back up to norm.
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>>2663535
thats a good trade then. I thought you were in this for the long haul in which case youd be getting rekt short term.
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Eth is dead for now. Buy back in in the $100s.
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>>2659354 (OP)
ETH is what made me ALL my profits. It was 85% of my portfolio... but I am in this to make money, not to be a superstitious, sentimental cuck.

I'd wanted to sell back at ATH before the last big correction and held instead, at great opportunity cost.

This time I listened to my instincts. It almost physically nauseated me to sell my stupid ETH, but christ I'm glad I did (a few hours ago at $300).

I am not a great trader but I am slowly, slowly getting better.
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>>2662060
/biz/ has been estimated to move the market by about $20-$50 million. Don't underestimate the meme power. dgb, pivx, practically every shit coin was /biz/
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>>2663703
Smart boy. You will do good.
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>>2663703
wow

nigga you are really stupid LOL

you just sold the dip

see how far that blue line is below the red? that means it corrects up, HARD.

you needed to sell at the complacency stage, not here you retard, especially after the entire market double bottomed
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>>2663703

It's really easy to get sentimental, but you got to remember, you're not buying for the coin, you're buying for the profit.
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>>2663716
how far do you think it will dip to and how high do you believe it will go? i have been holding since $18 and im gonna hold for at least a year i dont really care what happens in the short term but i like watching the movements
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>>2662187
>It's being forced down through a small number of sales, it's artificial
>>2663535
>I simply capitalize on you faggots thinking you're playing the market with your margin shorts overselling and riding the wave back up to norm.
Ok :^)
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>>2663716
the blue line has been under the red line since June 22nd and it has been going down that whole time except for Wednesday and Thursday's pump. Your indicator is faulty.

0.125 was a local top, this thing is going down
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Lucky projection
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>>2663747
we will probably see the last dash to new highs if btc shitshow gets resolved then its gonna correct hard
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>>2663858
you're a retard, red above blue means it's supposed to go down, when it diverges TOO much it goes UP.

the formation is called a C clamp, you predict the blue line crossing over the red you stupid mongrel

it literally just double bottomed

>>2663747
it should not fall past double bottom confirmation point at .1066. My shit won't let me zoom out to see the top based on fib levels, so I can't call the top
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>>2663926
>trying to sound smart
>failing miserably
meme lines work on non-volatile, trusted stocks. +/-5% best case scenario. you aren't going to predict 3 crashes in a week using "this red thing is over the blue thing i'm so smart lol"
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>>2663926
people would probably listen to you more if you didnt use insults in every single sentence.

The other guy said hhe sold at 300 and now its at 285. I think he did very well and all u do is insult him. Im going to laugh hard when it keeps dumping and then has an extremely weak "correction" that you're predicting
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>>2663858
seriously how stupid is this retard to not know what ichimoku is and call it faulty

like wtf

it's like seeing a forced update on your windows PC and me saying "oh it'll turn on again later" you saying "lol this shit is going down since the update, it's fucked".

>>2663959
I'm dumbing it down for you fucking retards, you want me to use the full technical terminology?

the blue line is the tenkan-sen and the red is kijun-sen, the deep array is the ichimoku kumo. It's a buy signal when the tenkan-sen crosses over the kijun-sen. Does that make you feel better?

>>2663996
you stupid nigger, think I give a fuck about you listening to me?

He's wrong, you're wrong, I'm right because I'm the fucking greatest.
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"whoops, guess I was wrong about bitcoin, I shouldn't have dismissed it and/or sold early. Shills are saying eth is Bitcoin 2.0 so I guess I'll buy that"

Literally the only reason this meme scam has gotten anywhere.

Still sagin eth threads all day err day
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>>2664025
this is why you have no friend irl
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>>2664037
I'm better than you. Low bar though.
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>>2664047
are you a holder of ETH or do you just daytrade it?
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>>2664054
I don't even have any of ETH. I just simply took a look at the charts for this thread.

The amount of money needed to 2x it at this point is too much, I have different longs that will go up faster.
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>>2664035
I dont know where all this weird ass forced hostility against eth comes from. You can own both btc and eth and any fucking shitcoin you want and want them to all succeed. Wtf is all this anger coming from? Did some nigger piss in your cereal every morning so you have tp have some random shit to hate on?
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>>2659456
That's just selling.
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I don't understand why people hate on ETH
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>>2664111
some kind of mental retardation. There is no reason why BTC and ETH and insert shitcoin here cant all work side by side.
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>>2664111
i think the reason is that they missed the boat with ETH. it has had huge growth the last few months and they are mad about not getting in on it. honestly, why else would you shit talk a crypto? like who cares
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>>2664025
> He's wrong, you're wrong, I'm right because I'm the fucking greatest.

u seem mad.

idk, I feel good about having broken my superstitious long-term attachment to ETH and sold it.

I used the new ETH pairs on Bittrex to buy a bunch of boring-ass XRP and LTC. Both are doing better than ETH rn, and both I think have the potential for considerable gains over the next few days to a week...

...altho I know, Ripple ALWAYS disappoints. At worst tho I think it will just hang out like Tether. I don't think ETH or BTC look very good right now. BTC maybe is the slightly better of the two.

>>2663712
>>2663736
Thanks bros.
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>>2664233
ripple is one huge series of pump and dumps, not a long term hold.
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Where is your god now, ethfags. I made all my money in ETH, but I got out on Thursday of last week. There is no longer any upside in Ethereum in the short to medium term. I expect to get back in substantially lower in the coming months.
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>>2664248
literally just launched intercountry banking network, not a long term hold???

https://ripple.com/insights/its-now-faster-and-easier-to-send-money-between-japan-and-thailand/

>sell ETH
>XRP is p&d

this guy is just a series of bad decisions, one after another. absolute retard.
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>>2664248
I could be wrong, but I think XRP is reasonably solid long-term... but all I want from it right now is just a comfy place to chill for maybe a week, and I think XRP has breakout possibilities during that time.
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>>2664291
youre allowed to speak only when ETH stops downtrending
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>C clamp
>predict the blue line crossing over the red you stupid mongrel
>double bottomed
>double bottom confirmation point at .1066
>fib levels
>buy signal when the tenkan-sen crosses over the kijun-sen
>I'm the fucking greatest
:^)
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When would be a good time for me to get ETH. Is it bottoming soon?
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cant stop loling at retards in this thread and other threads as well, that said its bullish. LMAO

300 is the new floor, JUST LMAO
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>>2664262
my final price target is 40

that should be a nasty enough washout to get rid of everyone
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>>2664308
go kys you retarded faggot, you are literally nothing.

literally the only time frame you can see a downtrend on eth is on the 2 week level, all other levels, shorter and longer term show up an uptrend. what a fucking tool
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>>2664346
it looks bad on every timeframe currently
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>>2664346
calm down fanboi. ETH is shit and you know it.
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>>2664367
>being emotional about literally any coin

faggot
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>>2664375
you just told someone to kill himself because he disagreed with your (wrong) assessment. what is wrong with you? you shouldn't have put so much money in if you didn't know what you were doing.
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>>2664346
>muh ichimoku cloud
>muh buy signal
>muh uptrend
Every indicator is a lagging indicator. Your ichimoku bullshit is bullshit.

Since your first post in this thread, ETH is down nearly 10 bucks. Where is this moon you promised?

Don't speak unless you know what you're talking about. And stop being so mad, you're going to have an aneurysm pretty soon
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Asian volumes, use the Asian markets, there is literally nothing to worry about here yet, still on the old floors.
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>>2659955
patience. it will be at 500-600 by the end of the year. stop being a pussy.
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>>2664390
LMAO

it's been what, two hours? and you fucking faggot, the fuck do you mean the moon I promised? I didn't promise shit to anybody. I don't owe you shit, you pathetic sheep. I made a fucking declaration. Keep panic selling you stupid bitch, I don't give a shit.

The ENTIRE market is down you moron, if you hadn't fucking noticed lmao

When the fuck did I give any time frame at all? lmao.

also

>giving a shit about non daily movements

stay poor
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>>2659563
That guy made that video over a week ago, and so far he's been wrong on every prediction. See, this is the problem with TA. JUST BUY LOW SELL HIGH ITS THAT SIMPLE
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>>2664435
buuuuuuut didn't you also just say 4 and a half hours ago it was going horizontal at $300?
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>>2664470
You use TA to set buy/sell points. The low and high is nearly always a fib level.
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>>2664469
>entire market
no its not

>stay poor
if you had any money you would
1. not take meme lines seriously for a shitcoin
2. not get so upset that people know more than you
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>>2664471

yes? 37k ceiling KWN ~= 300usd?
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>wow guys ETH is going up now moon moon moon!

is this what you fucking faggots expect?

These hourly movements are inconsequential. Kill yourself if you think otherwise.

>>2664482
k
>b-but anon, that one random shitcoin!!!
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ETH will be 123k by the end of this post
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>>2664497
>>2664497
im rich!
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>>2664497
dont be silly anon, thats way too high
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>>2664482
So far all your "knowledge" consists of icantintoTAsoitdoesnt work, dumb nigger.
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Ahhh, whales margin hunting short fags, its beautiful.
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>>2664502
i said it works for assets tied to some consistent value provided. mr. kenchiiki-sen suicidal bagholder over here can only say "it will rise" or "it will fall" with no accuracy to magnitude or timing, because his fucking lines lag behind the trends. he's a fucking idiot and so are you.

>>2664496
>poloniex
>only high volume coins
>entire market
you'll learn i guess...
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>>2664529
stop looking for verification on your pathetic belief that TA doesn't work.

You are just far too stupid to understand it. Your lack of knowledge scares you.

I don't need anyone to verify anything for me. I make statements; you look for other pathetic retards to sympathize with. I'm the fucking best. You are trash.

Everyone, look at these pathetic faggots. Like seriously, the moon I *promised*? lmao.

How fucking pathetic can you get.
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>>2664562
who are you talking to? maybe you should take a break from crypto if you lost so much.
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>>2664579
Projecting.

You are an open book, much like the market is for TA.
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>>2664586
>"analysis"
>"when the red is over blue it's going to go up"
>"except that's only true about 50% of the time and has no correlation with when it will actually happen or how much"
>"im too new to crypto to understand how the price fluctuates, i just look at lines and guess"
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>>2664628
kek!
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>>2664628
>thinks I only use ichimoku

retard sets up a strawman argument instantly.

Stop typing.

>>2664646
pathetic circle jerk.
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>>2664650
Calm down, pajeet lmao
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>>2664650
kys, loser
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>>2664668
>you watch the price bleed down for hours
>half a second later it instantaneous gains back
>not understanding that NOONE sells like that, and it's a whale sell wall to suppress the price
>25% zoomed in

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>2664675
oh lawd, so now the whales are why you're wrong. ok friend... you're not REALLY wrong, just those darn whales aren't obeying the meme lines.
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>>2664675
your ichukaki cloud can detect the presence of whales as well? Wow what an amazing indicator.
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>>2664675
>you watch the price bleed down for hours
>half a second later it instantaneous gains back

you described a dead cat bounce
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>>2664690
rofl

>how do pump and dumps work anon? There's no way that they're going to REMOVE the wall to make it seem like the price is going up under buy pressure later! that wall will remain forever! 


>>2664692
You can't save face, you fucking retard.

legit posts a 25% zoomed in wall lmao

>>2664707

>slow bleed
>dead cat bounce

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LOOK AT YOUR OWN IMAGE RETARD

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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So in the end, the only thing drawing the price down was people shorting because they collectively believed the price would go down or followed twitter bots and the market forces that be normalized it leaving lots of salty FUD'ers in the red? hilarious.

>following the meme bubble graph ishygiggitydiggity
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this dumb bitch doesn't even understand basic physics and lacks basic critical thinking rofl

you guys ever slowly roll a ball down a hill and watch it just suddenly bounce back up to you? crazy stuff that gravity

rofl
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>>2664732
and you have quickly rolled a ball down a hill and watched it just suddenly bounce back up to you?
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>>2664725
>slow bleed
>5-10%
dummy
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>>2664729
anons are going into a fud meltdown because they saw other people making money shorting, and will now owe thousands of dollars if they can't drive the price back down. pottery
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>>2664738
>slow bleed
>you just described a dead cat bounce
>no anon it's the same as quickly rolling a ball down a hill

>slow bleed
>you just described a dead cat bounce

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
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>>2664314

I just noticed this faggot.

>buy signal when the tenkan-sen crosses over the kijun-sen

That hasn't happened yet retard LMAO

This is why I dont use these terms. Faggots like this can't keep up. Can barely tell the difference between blue and red.
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>>2664732
>you guys ever slowly roll a ball down a hill and watch it just suddenly bounce back up to you? >crazy stuff that gravity
your tragic personality disorder aside, you are making less and less sense.
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>>2664789
that is sarcasm, moron. holy shit.

I was mocking that retard thinking a slow bleed means a dead cat bounce.

You're even fucking stupider than he is. Even he understood that.
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ITT: Tourette's Syndrome Anonymous
:^)
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>>2664809
>15 minutes candles
>cant tell the difference between blue and red
>doesnt know where the double bottom point is
>mom he hurt my feelings swearing
>ETH was .09~ 2 days ago

10/10 I took the bait
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Oh no, how will I cope, only $2.8k gain, better kill myself :^)
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>>2664851
>>2664809
How did you learn what TA to use? I've heard that baby pips is a good place to start but idk if that's just for forex
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I like ponies