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July 22, 2017

Why doesnt Nintendo Ditch the kiddy image?

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kislev 3 hours ago#1
When has the kiddy image ever benifited Nintendo? Kids don't buy Nintendo games they play COD,clash of clans and candy crush. Most Nintendo fans are Adult males. 

Why does Nintendo continue to censor their games to appeal to kids who don't even buy their stuff and ignore the real fan base?
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Torgo 3 hours ago#2
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.
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kislev 3 hours ago#3
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


Nintendo for the last two decades has had kids in their commercials, the only games Nintendo makes are all cartoony
This mostly appeals to adults who grew up with Nintendo not today's generation and certainly not adults with no history with Nintendo
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
NewMoonShadow 3 hours ago#4
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


Nintendo for the last two decades has had kids in their commercials, the only games Nintendo makes are all cartoony
This mostly appeals to adults who grew up with Nintendo not today's generation and certainly not adults with no history with Nintendo


1: Most recent Nintendo commercials, especially recently, have had whole families in them, kids and adults, not just kids.

2: Bullshit adults today don't like "cartoony" things. If that were true they wouldn't be playing Overwatch, Borderlands, or TellTale games. They wouldn't have played Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, or many of the other highly successful games with "unrealistic" graphics out there.

And they certainly wouldn't have turned actual cartoons like "Adventure Time", "Gravity Falls", "Steven Universe", and "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" into these huge generation-spanning phenomena.
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Jaime_Benn 3 hours ago#5
Did you not watch the Super Bowl?
omniryu 3 hours ago#6
Jaime_Benn posted...
Did you not watch the Super Bowl?
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kislev 3 hours ago#7
NewMoonShadow posted...
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


Nintendo for the last two decades has had kids in their commercials, the only games Nintendo makes are all cartoony
This mostly appeals to adults who grew up with Nintendo not today's generation and certainly not adults with no history with Nintendo


1: Most recent Nintendo commercials, especially recently, have had whole families in them, kids and adults, not just kids.

2: Bullshit adults today don't like "cartoony" things. If that were true they wouldn't be playing Overwatch, Borderlands, or TellTale games. They wouldn't have played Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, or many of the other highly successful games with "unrealistic" graphics out there.

And they certainly wouldn't have turned actual cartoons like "Adventure Time", "Gravity Falls", "Steven Universe", and "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" into these huge generation-spanning phenomena.


That's not something to be proud of
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
NewMoonShadow 3 hours ago#8
kislev posted...
NewMoonShadow posted...
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


Nintendo for the last two decades has had kids in their commercials, the only games Nintendo makes are all cartoony
This mostly appeals to adults who grew up with Nintendo not today's generation and certainly not adults with no history with Nintendo


1: Most recent Nintendo commercials, especially recently, have had whole families in them, kids and adults, not just kids.

2: Bullshit adults today don't like "cartoony" things. If that were true they wouldn't be playing Overwatch, Borderlands, or TellTale games. They wouldn't have played Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, or many of the other highly successful games with "unrealistic" graphics out there.

And they certainly wouldn't have turned actual cartoons like "Adventure Time", "Gravity Falls", "Steven Universe", and "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" into these huge generation-spanning phenomena.


That's not something to be proud of


Your personal opinion of those shows is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Respond to the argument or admit your statement is full of shit.
Torgo 3 hours ago#9
kislev posted...
the only games Nintendo makes are all cartoony


If you consider Zelda, Fire Emblem, Metroid, and Xenoblade Chronicles "cartoony" or just on par with the art and style of most Japanese developers, I guess?

Still...it's really just that dude-bro, insecure young male demographic that worries about this. They have two console that pander to their insecurities...Nintendo did well overall in attracting others to their properties. (remember, you have to count the Wii and DS, and not just focus conveniently on Wii U when discussing Nintendo's overall success)
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ChaosStar290 3 hours ago#10
Hey, it's carried them through the years, so why should they stop?

Guess we better title games like Fire Emblem, Metroid, Xenoblade kiddy as well.
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Torgo 3 hours ago#11
ChaosStar290 posted...
Hey, it's carried them through the years, so why should they stop?

Guess we better title games like Fire Emblem, Metroid, Xenoblade kiddy as well.


I like a good grey and brown shooter as much as the next guy, but I also like a colorful fantasy world with solid gameplay and design.
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sotojuan 3 hours ago#12
The only people that care about "manly" or "realistic" games where you play as a silent 35 year old bald space marine guy are 16 year olds or people who mentally are 16 year olds. In my experience people will play games that are good and fun regardless of the art style.

I think Nintendo's aesthetic is good because it sets them apart from a market that is already saturated.
kislev 3 hours ago#13
Compare metriod to doom, metriod still Has a cartoony aesthetic and isn't anywhere near as mature 

Fire Emblem is an Anime waifu pandering game with strategy 

Don't even get me started on the new xenoblade game and it's art style
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
kislev 3 hours ago#14
Torgo posted...
ChaosStar290 posted...
Hey, it's carried them through the years, so why should they stop?

Guess we better title games like Fire Emblem, Metroid, Xenoblade kiddy as well.


I like a good grey and brown shooter as much as the next guy, but I also like a colorful fantasy world with solid gameplay and design.


I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
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Torgo 3 hours ago#15
kislev posted...
Compare metriod to doom, metriod still Has a cartoony aesthetic and isn't anywhere near as mature


MATURE???

Are you for serious, bro?

Doom is awesome, I love Doom...I even love Doom 3...the whole franchise is awesome.

But let's be clear: Doom is gloriously juvenile. It's big, dumb, horror action bliss with rockin' metal soundtrack.

Metroid is more of a thoughtful game of isolation and exploration. It's somewhat realistic, but somewhat surreal and abstract. The story, ambient music, and atmosphere is very sophisticated.

I rest my case...dudebros and teenage boys equate "adult" with stuff that they weren't supposed to see as small children, and discount the entire concept of "mature"...
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Torgo 3 hours ago#16
kislev posted...
I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy


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berusnoir 3 hours ago#17
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
ChaosStar290 posted...
Hey, it's carried them through the years, so why should they stop?

Guess we better title games like Fire Emblem, Metroid, Xenoblade kiddy as well.


I like a good grey and brown shooter as much as the next guy, but I also like a colorful fantasy world with solid gameplay and design.


I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy

Would have respected something like shadow of Mordor but Witcher the series with IMO gamplay so bad that it belongs in the Psone era also you do know final fantasy is also in the anime wifu department but more for females ?
Viccss 3 hours ago#18
kislev posted...
I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy

Final Fantasy and Witcher suck imo but I have to agree with you Xenoblade is a huge disgrace.
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ChaosStar290 2 hours ago#19
kislev posted...
Compare metriod to doom, metriod still Has a cartoony aesthetic and isn't anywhere near as mature 

Fire Emblem is an Anime waifu pandering game with strategy 

Don't even get me started on the new xenoblade game and it's art style


And your point is? Games having brown and gray graphics, swearing does not always mean mature.

Hell, Kirby, a series with cute and cuddly creatures and bright, colorful worlds, homes giant floating eyeballs that bleed, a demonic clown with a bloodcurdling scream that rapes the eardrums, an alien that betrays Kirby for the sake of a crown that has infinite power. The crown that revived Magolor back from the dead, and possesses his soul. A queen bee that lost her loyalty and friends after her servants brings a mirror that made her go completely insane, and a man that runs a multimillion dollar company. That lost her daughter after an accident, building the ultimate machine that could bring said daughter back. But his daughter was never really dead, leaving the man with nothing but greed and depression. And the machine he built had a mind of its own, wanting to destroy all organic life in the universe.

Let me rephrase, that this came from a Kirby game. A pink puffball has darker moments than any realistic shooter out there.
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ROB45 2 hours ago#20
I didn't realise that it is still 1992.
d4rkauras 2 hours ago#21
Their kiddy image is why Nintendo has a ton of memorable and iconic character designs. Simplicity and bright colors do much more for brand recognition than a "mature" image. 
People ranging from kids to adults will be playing Nintendo games regardless of their current image. If you still think a more childish looking image is somehow detrimental to Nintendo, their "real fan base", or your enjoyment of their games then perhaps you're the one that needs to mature. Or you could play XBOX ONE/PS4/PC instead if your tastes just don't mirror what Nintendo will always bring to the table.
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DiscostewSM 2 hours ago#22
"When you've got no argument, say something bad about <x>."
Perfectly explains why the Nintendo boards are toxic and are full of trolls/haters.
wokiboy67 2 hours ago#23
TC, i like to see a game where blood & guts are absent. Nintendo does this well, been gaming since the Colecovision back in the days. Seen blood, carnage and murder a plenty. Sure i like to mow down monsters/people in a good shooter, but sometimes it's nice to relax with let's say super mario.
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DaeboVidra 2 hours ago#24
I've been an adult long enough to not care. 
I just play the games I enjoy.
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NewMoonShadow 2 hours ago#25
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
ChaosStar290 posted...
Hey, it's carried them through the years, so why should they stop?

Guess we better title games like Fire Emblem, Metroid, Xenoblade kiddy as well.


I like a good grey and brown shooter as much as the next guy, but I also like a colorful fantasy world with solid gameplay and design.


I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy


So you are, in fact, a troll who is just saying inflammatory things to upset Nintendo fans.

Understood. I apologize for trying to bring logic to your realm.
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DiscostewSM 2 hours ago#26
It's generally the insecure kiddies and teenagers that can't stand the so-called "kiddie image" because they feel they must act grown-up, when actual grown-ups really don't give a flying feather.

NBTvw
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Junior_AIN 2 hours ago#27
Nintendo now caters to a much more mature audience than its competitors. The grandmothers.
EternalWolf 2 hours ago#28
kislev posted...
Compare metriod to doom, metriod still Has a cartoony aesthetic and isn't anywhere near as mature 

Fire Emblem is an Anime waifu pandering game with strategy 

Don't even get me started on the new xenoblade game and it's art style



This dude clearly has not played Metroid or DOOM. If anything Metroid is the more mature franchise and these are two of my favorite franchises of all time.
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ChaosStar290 2 hours ago#30
Viccss posted...
kislev posted...
I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy

Final Fantasy and Witcher suck imo but I have to agree with you Xenoblade is a huge disgrace.


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MarioBro88 1 hour ago#31
Nintendo being the only one that is "kiddy" of the big three is one of the very few reasons why I don't have a 100% bleak outlook on life.

Painful topic.
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kislev 1 hour ago#32
berusnoir posted...
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
ChaosStar290 posted...
Hey, it's carried them through the years, so why should they stop?

Guess we better title games like Fire Emblem, Metroid, Xenoblade kiddy as well.


I like a good grey and brown shooter as much as the next guy, but I also like a colorful fantasy world with solid gameplay and design.


I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy

Would have respected something like shadow of Mordor but Witcher the series with IMO gamplay so bad that it belongs in the Psone era also you do know final fantasy is also in the anime wifu department but more for females ?


I'm talking about the good Final Fantasy games you know the ones on Nintendo like Final Fantasy 6 which is a very mature and we'll told story you can't argue that
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
Lm03 1 hour ago#33
omniryu posted...
Jaime_Benn posted...
Did you not watch the Super Bowl?
IloveElite 1 hour ago#34
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


^^ ding ding, we have a winner!
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Chuck_1st 1 hour ago#35
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i love the way they are right now, Uncharted and god of war are awful, and is just killing it for many on Sonys image
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BruceCM 1 hour ago#36
DaeboVidra posted...
I've been an adult long enough to not care. 
I just play the games I enjoy.

Yep!
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JustABox 1 hour ago#37
Viccss posted...
kislev posted...
I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy

Final Fantasy and Witcher suck imo but I have to agree with you Xenoblade is a huge disgrace.

The First Xenoblade was very good. Xenoblade X wasn't and Xenoblade 2 looks to be going full on anime and I'm not sold on it at all. 

And up until 13 Final Fantasy was good and enjoyable. They just rereleased 12 for PS4 and it's great.
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kislev 1 hour ago#38
Lm03 posted...
omniryu posted...
Jaime_Benn posted...
Did you not watch the Super Bowl?


No
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
emagdnE 1 hour ago#39
Fire Emblem is an Anime waifu pandering game with strategy

Wrong.

.....Strategy has been completely absent from Fire Emblem since 2004. Way before the waifu pandering began.

I'm talking about the good Final Fantasy games

Final Fantasy is the worst franchise ever and they are interactive movies.

like Final Fantasy 6 which is a very mature and we'll told story you can't argue that

I sure as fuck can.

The villain is a zero-dimensional (Yeah, not even one-dimensional. ZERO.) Joker rip-off with no motive whatsoever who is only liked because of stupid one liners. He wants to destroy the world just because.

We have villains with more meaningful reasons for wanting to erase all existence. Sargeras from Warcraft for example, was once a titan in charge of maintaining order in the universe but saw his struggle as pointless and that chaos is the true nature of the universe after countless battles with demons. So twisted and disturbed from all the fucked up things he saw demons do, he reached the conclusion that the only way to bring order to the universe is to destroy it.

.....But this clown in fruity makeup and dresses (What is with Square and flamboyant villains?) wants to destroy everything with less reasoning than 1980s cartoon villains had for their choice of a life in villainy.

And villains are the driving force behind any story. And FF6's villain is so cartoony and zero-dimensional..... and nowhere near as entertaining as the Joker which someone at Square decided he wants to make his own version of.

Oh, and a 12 year old girl who likes to paint can end his wretched life with just two spell casts. Little girls can end "gods". Oh Japan.....

And most things felt disconnected from the main plot and pointless. Like that opera scene. It feels like it was written by teenagers. (But then again, all jRPGs do.)

Even Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (Yes, it's fucking worse than Fates' plot, even if Xander is the worst character in the franchise.) has a better plot than any FF. And that was full of Blood Pact shenanigans and everyone dickriding Ike to no end.....
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arvilino 1 hour ago#40
kislev posted...
Compare metriod to doom, metriod still Has a cartoony aesthetic and isn't anywhere near as mature



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I swear some of you people must think that shock content = maturity. The reality is that you could have a game with a more nuanced, mature tale in a game with a T-rating than majority of the games that have an 'M' on the cover.
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dextorboot 1 hour ago#41
Kids are people too.
Chuck_1st 1 hour ago#42
kislev posted...
I'd take Final Fantasy and Witcher over Xenoblade anyways which is a disgrace to Xenogears legacy

Well rejoice, Final Fantasy is a Nintendo game

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Viccss 1 hour ago#43
emagdnE posted...

I sure as fuck can.

The villain is a zero-dimensional (Yeah, not even one-dimensional. ZERO.) Joker rip-off with no motive whatsoever who is only liked because of stupid one liners. He wants to destroy the world just because.

We have villains with more meaningful reasons for wanting to erase all existence. Sargeras from Warcraft for example,

Stopped reading at that.
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Chuck_1st 1 hour ago#44
Viccss posted...
emagdnE posted...

I sure as fuck can.

The villain is a zero-dimensional (Yeah, not even one-dimensional. ZERO.) Joker rip-off with no motive whatsoever who is only liked because of stupid one liners. He wants to destroy the world just because.

We have villains with more meaningful reasons for wanting to erase all existence. Sargeras from Warcraft for example,

Stopped reading at that.

your mistake was read an engame post, whenever i see hom as any of his alts, all have the name either mispelled or adapted so is easy to knw who it is, just a reject that got kicked out from all of the fire emblem sites all over the planet.
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MWXIII 1 hour ago#45
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


No.

Kiddie image is what adults and teenagers call something that has a kiddie image. Nintendo aims for extremely childish and lite themes. They don't like complicated stories or things that make you think, just smiles and bright colors that look like a kids Disney movie
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MWXIII 1 hour ago#46
NewMoonShadow posted...
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


Nintendo for the last two decades has had kids in their commercials, the only games Nintendo makes are all cartoony
This mostly appeals to adults who grew up with Nintendo not today's generation and certainly not adults with no history with Nintendo


1: Most recent Nintendo commercials, especially recently, have had whole families in them, kids and adults, not just kids.

2: Bullshit adults today don't like "cartoony" things. If that were true they wouldn't be playing Overwatch, Borderlands, or TellTale games. They wouldn't have played Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, or many of the other highly successful games with "unrealistic" graphics out there.

And they certainly wouldn't have turned actual cartoons like "Adventure Time", "Gravity Falls", "Steven Universe", and "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" into these huge generation-spanning phenomena.


Almost none of those games are cartoon. There's a difference between art style and content. Persona 5 has heavy rape and extortion themes. Overwatch is about terrorism. Borderlands is about mercenaries.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about
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old-new72 1 hour ago#47
@emagdnE

I doubt you play video games.
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MWXIII 1 hour ago#48
kislev posted...
Compare metriod to doom, metriod still Has a cartoony aesthetic and isn't anywhere near as mature 

Fire Emblem is an Anime waifu pandering game with strategy 

Don't even get me started on the new xenoblade game and it's art style


This
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Chuck_1st 1 hour ago#49
MWXIII posted...
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


No.

Kiddie image is what adults and teenagers call something that has a kiddie image. Nintendo aims for extremely childish and lite themes. They don't like complicated stories or things that make you think, just smiles and bright colors that look like a kids Disney movie

yeah like bayonetta right?
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_Dog 1 hour ago#50
NewMoonShadow posted...
kislev posted...
Torgo posted...
"kiddie image" - is what dude-bros and insecure teenage boys call stuff that isn't overly-macho and pandering to their "I'm a grown up person!" demographic.


Nintendo for the last two decades has had kids in their commercials, the only games Nintendo makes are all cartoony
This mostly appeals to adults who grew up with Nintendo not today's generation and certainly not adults with no history with Nintendo


1: Most recent Nintendo commercials, especially recently, have had whole families in them, kids and adults, not just kids.

2: Bullshit adults today don't like "cartoony" things. If that were true they wouldn't be playing Overwatch, Borderlands, or TellTale games. They wouldn't have played Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, or many of the other highly successful games with "unrealistic" graphics out there.

And they certainly wouldn't have turned actual cartoons like "Adventure Time", "Gravity Falls", "Steven Universe", and "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" into these huge generation-spanning phenomena.

This is why we're in the second Dark Age of Animation, it's DeviantART pandering.

Anyways, mark the TC and move on. He's insecure to the point where he can't even decline a bet from me on the fate of the Switch.
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