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May 24, 2017

Swimming is the one flaw in this game I can't overlook

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Duncanwii 2 days ago#1
You swim at about 3 miles an hour and despite claims neither the Zora Armor nor getting naked speeds things up.
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wiiking96 2 days ago#2
Swimming isn't the only way to cross bodies of water.

It's pretty obvious that the developers wanted to encourage players to try out different ways to traverse the environment.
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Fake_Gustave 2 days ago#3
They should've given you an underwater pressurized Gundam suit or something. But with a Z on its back and chest, for Zelda.
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Great_Khan 2 days ago#4
BotW likes making things tedious, this is a well known fact.
Fake_Gustave 2 days ago#5
Great_Khan posted...
BotW likes making things tedious, this is a well known fact.


Like, the entire game.
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Thrasher7170 2 days ago#6
Fake_Gustave posted...
Great_Khan posted...
BotW likes making things tedious, this is a well known fact.


Like, the entire game.

Why are you even here? It's obvious you don't like the game. Stop trolling the board and move on.
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Fake_Gustave 2 days ago#7
Thrasher7170 posted...
Fake_Gustave posted...
Great_Khan posted...
BotW likes making things tedious, this is a well known fact.


Like, the entire game.

Why are you even here? It's obvious you don't like the game. Stop trolling the board and move on.


You're hurting my feelings.
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bladexdsl 2 days ago#8
use crynosis no need to get wet!
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ghost_tails 2 days ago#9
If you're swimming enough that it's tedious, you're doing something wrong.
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Duncanwii 2 days ago#10
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious. Now if Ice Arrows worked like they did in Majora's Mask...
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sai_kanzen 2 days ago#11
It would've been cool if the complete Zora Armor made you swim like Zora Link from MM.
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Duncanwii posted...
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious. Now if Ice Arrows worked like they did in Majora's Mask...

It's not that hard once you get the hang of it, and paragliding between the ice blocks is really quick. I worked my way up the entire eastern coast of the map in ten minutes or so using that method.
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wiiking96 2 days ago#13
Duncanwii posted...
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far

Paraglider. Seriously. PARAGLIDER. Did you actually forget about that?

and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious.

It's not.
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Duncanwii 2 days ago#14
wiiking96 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far

Paraglider. Seriously. PARAGLIDER. Did you actually forget about that?

and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious.

It's not.

No I didn't. I just wasn't sure if ice blocks were high enough to glide from.
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wiiking96 2 days ago#15
Duncanwii posted...
wiiking96 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far

Paraglider. Seriously. PARAGLIDER. Did you actually forget about that?

and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious.

It's not.

No I didn't. I just wasn't sure if ice blocks were high enough to glide from.

You seriously never thought to even try?
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deathwave21 2 days ago#16
Duncanwii posted...
You swim at about 3 miles an hour and despite claims neither the Zora Armor nor getting naked speeds things up.

Zora armor (All 3 pieces at level 2 or higher) significantly increases swimming speed. I do it all the time
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ecylis 2 days ago#18
Duncanwii posted...
neither the Zora Armor nor getting naked speeds things up.

...

yes it does?
bladexdsl 2 days ago#19
Duncanwii posted...

Link doesn't really jump that far and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious

lol wat than your doing it wrong. if you jump off a block at the right time he goes into a dive than you quickly glide and you get a height boost.
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I don't have a problem with the swimming. Use the Zora armor and dash (it takes very little stamina to do so), or use ice blocks and paraglide between them. Once you get the hang of the distance, you can traverse water quite quickly.

I just wish there were paddle boats or canoes you could leisurely cruise around in without using stamina or flailing away with a leaf.
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SythisTaru 2 days ago#21
Duncanwii posted...
neither the Zora Armo


Lol, trolling.
Duncanwii posted...
You swim at about 3 miles an hour and despite claims neither the Zora Armor nor getting naked speeds things up.

I've noticed with the Zora armor (which needs 2 upgrades for the following I do believe), that your base swimming speed doesn't seem that much different, however, your dash ends up being so reduced in stamina usage that it uses less stamina to spam dash than to just swim.
HelloNewman 2 days ago#23
I just wish they at least made it to where you can dive for a few seconds, like in Ocarina of Time. Sucks when you lose things in the water that are just deep enough to be out of reach.
P4wn4g3 2 days ago#24
Swimming is seriously a missed opportunity. The long rivers actually have a bunch of stuff in them and would provide a fun alternative method of travel if swimming was done well, like it was in MM. Honestly I'm not sure why they bothered putting stuff in lakes and rivers the way it is.
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Duncanwii posted...
You swim at about 3 miles an hour and despite claims neither the Zora Armor nor getting naked speeds things up.


full set does have a speed+ but much like incomplete climbing set its not really noticeable and cost quite bit stamina to use


but compairing it to climbing set...
zora set might be broke....

or some odd reason swimming stat values are set lower?
then again it could be the climbing values were set to high....

they really should fix this with one dlc
maybe add diving or something lol
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nesis 2 days ago#26
I'd prefer to drown instead of swim. It's ridiculously slow, and it's safer and about as fast to cross water with Cryonis. At least Cryonis lets you dodge enemies.
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Duncanwii posted...
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious. Now if Ice Arrows worked like they did in Majora's Mask...


Using Cryonosis is extremely seamless in it's execution. Pop an ice block, make another one far enough to cover distance but close enough to paraglide to it. Because of this there is clearly no need for the old usage of Ice Arrows.
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3 miles per hour is an above average swimming speed, actually.
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Hauke 2 days ago#29
You never used the Zora armor, didn't you? With the set bonus you're amazingly fast and you can sprint super easily for nearly zero costs.
Many lakes have a raft, don't they? Traveling with the raft is pretty fast if you have a korok leaf.
I avoid swimming as much as I can, it's so darn slow without the Zora Armor and even with it--darn slow :D
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The_Undying_84 posted...
3 miles per hour is an above average swimming speed, actually.

I could swim faster as Link if I want to :D
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SilverLizalfos posted...
Many lakes have a raft, don't they? Traveling with the raft is pretty fast if you have a korok leaf.
I avoid swimming as much as I can, it's so darn slow without the Zora Armor and even with it--darn slow :D

it's also pretty fast with a metal object and magnesis.
but metal objects won't break from over-use.
thedicemaster posted...
SilverLizalfos posted...
Many lakes have a raft, don't they? Traveling with the raft is pretty fast if you have a korok leaf.
I avoid swimming as much as I can, it's so darn slow without the Zora Armor and even with it--darn slow :D

it's also pretty fast with a metal object and magnesis.
but metal objects won't break from over-use.

I always thought the Korok Leaf doesn't break when you just swing it around. I always have one with me and I never had to replace it yet.
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izza20 1 day ago#34
It's slightly ridiculous that you can swim up a waterfall at 10x the speed you can swim flat. The Zora sets bonus should be some sort of hold button to dash swimming rather than awkwardly doing lots of little dashes.
DHGummy 1 day ago#35
I personally like it. Gives me a reason to look for ways to cross a river without just diving in. Makes you examine the landscape more and think. Also makes swimming buffs actually feel useful, instead of redundant like most games.
Hauke 1 day ago#36
izza20 posted...
It's slightly ridiculous that you can swim up a waterfall at 10x the speed you can swim flat. The Zora sets bonus should be some sort of hold button to dash swimming rather than awkwardly doing lots of little dashes.


Get the timing right.
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Drizzlebow 1 day ago#38
DHGummy posted...
I personally like it. Gives me a reason to look for ways to cross a river without just diving in. Makes you examine the landscape more and think. Also makes swimming buffs actually feel useful, instead of redundant like most games.

I agree with this, but underwater exploration is still a missed opportunity.
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I was really hoping full Zora would make you swim like in Skyward. It's a shame really.
Duncanwii posted...
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious. Now if Ice Arrows worked like they did in Majora's Mask...

But Cryonis won't waste resources like using ice arrows on water.
Katellox 1 day ago#41
TBH I don't have a problem with the Zora armor but I am curious why they didn't just do what they did 17 years ago and just make Link able to swim fast af like in Majora's Mask. Would make swimming across the giant lakes and rivers much more enjoyable.
Katellox posted...
TBH I don't have a problem with the Zora armor but I am curious why they didn't just do what they did 17 years ago and just make Link able to swim fast af like in Majora's Mask. Would make swimming across the giant lakes and rivers much more enjoyable.

I think at the very least they should've gave you a swimming version of Revali's Gale. Like maybe in the Zora armor, your dash goes like 5 times farther than the normal one.
Katellox 1 day ago#43
flameheadshero posted...
Katellox posted...
TBH I don't have a problem with the Zora armor but I am curious why they didn't just do what they did 17 years ago and just make Link able to swim fast af like in Majora's Mask. Would make swimming across the giant lakes and rivers much more enjoyable.

I think at the very least they should've gave you a swimming version of Revali's Gale. Like maybe in the Zora armor, your dash goes like 5 times farther than the normal one.


Agreed.

At least they were kind enough to let us ride waterfalls. :)
flameheadshero posted...
Duncanwii posted...
bladexdsl posted...
use crynosis no need to get wet!

Link doesn't really jump that far and using Crynosis like that just seems tedious. Now if Ice Arrows worked like they did in Majora's Mask...

But Cryonis won't waste resources like using ice arrows on water.

I want an ice skating Link now... :D
I'm the jumping annoying Silver Lizalfos you know so well :D
hellzyaaahhhhhh posted...
full set does have a speed+ but much like incomplete climbing set its not really noticeable and cost quite bit stamina to use

The speed boost from just one piece of the Zora or climbing sets is easily noticeable to me (moreso for the climbing gear; one piece of the Zora set is noticeable but doesn't feel like much of an improvement).
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Immature_Sage 12 hours ago#47
For the entire "early game hell" portion of this game as soon as I saw a body of water I would instantly say "nope!" as swimming is very slow and stamina just evaporates too quickly. It wasn't until I got the Zora equipment and activated a good deal of shrines that I started to be OK with swimming.

I still prefer to use Crynosis if I have to cross a river or something, much faster than the maximum swimming speed.
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Servare 11 hours ago#48
The Zora armor most definitely speeds you up.

With that said, it's not near enough. The Zora armor's max speed should be Link's default speed. The complete set should allow you to swim the same way it allows you to swim up stream.
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SilentSeph 9 hours ago#49
SkyCrackers posted...
Does anyone regularly rely on hasty elixirs to speed up traversal? The speed boost from a high level elixir is very nice, but procuring a steady stream of them could be a problem.

Mix 4 Fleet-Lotus Seeds/Rushrooms with a shard of a dragon's horn to get a high level speed boost that lasts 30 minutes. It takes less than 2 minutes to get Farosh's horn if you have the Zora Armor and the shrine near Riola Spring activated.
pizzaman95 1 hour ago#50
Fake_Gustave posted...
Thrasher7170 posted...
Fake_Gustave posted...
Great_Khan posted...
BotW likes making things tedious, this is a well known fact.


Like, the entire game.

Why are you even here? It's obvious you don't like the game. Stop trolling the board and move on.


You're hurting my feelings.

He poses a legitimate question, though.

It's not a crime by any means to dislike this game, but seeing as topics about how supposedly bad the game is generally get around a mere 3 people agreeing with everyone else disagreeing, you're clearly not in like-minded company, and I've seen detractors complain about people arguing in the game's favor poorly, so clearly you all don't think you're going to get an interesting discussion here.

So... why are you here, if not to discuss the game with civil and intelligent company?
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