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August 8, 2017

Why doesn't da US strike first against North Korea?

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ssj3vegeta 13 hours ago#1
PerseusRad 13 hours ago#2
I guess cause they don't want any conflict with NK's allies, nor risk any American lives.
thronedfire2 13 hours ago#3
PerseusRad posted...
I guess cause they don't want any conflict with NK's allies, nor risk any American lives.


or because we don't want to turn south korea into a parking lot too
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PerseusRad 13 hours ago#4
thronedfire2 posted...
PerseusRad posted...
I guess cause they don't want any conflict with NK's allies, nor risk any American lives.


or because we don't want to turn south korea into a parking lot too

That too, yeah.
solidraidens 13 hours ago#5
Because the fallout would spread into the surrounding countries.

thronedfire2 posted...
or because we don't want to turn south korea into a parking lot too


This, basically.
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Darkman124 13 hours ago#6
PerseusRad posted...
That too, yeah.


pretty much exclusively that
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ssj3vegeta 13 hours ago#7
Chicken 13 hours ago#8
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.
PerseusRad 13 hours ago#9
Darkman124 posted...
PerseusRad posted...
That too, yeah.


pretty much exclusively that

I mean, starting something unprovoked could definitely cause a bad reaction with China, it's a factor. They wouldn't go to war with us probably, but it's not like that part should be ignored.
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pinky0926 13 hours ago#10
There's no financial or tactical incentive to instigating war with NK. They have no resources and no political gain would come from fighting them. All you'd have is an unprecedented humanitarian crisis on your hands.

Plus, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans in South Korea, you'd be putting a lot of American lives at immediate risk.

PLUS, they would not be an easy opponent whatsoever.
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HypnoCoosh 13 hours ago#11
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.


This is the most ignorant post I've read in weeks.
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Chicken 12 hours ago#12
HypnoCoosh posted...
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.


This is the most ignorant post I've read in weeks.


Prove me wrong.
LordMarshal 12 hours ago#13
Why downt dey use da meteor spell like da sefuriths?
There can be only one.
frozenshock 12 hours ago#14
LordMarshal posted...
Why downt dey use da meteor spell like da sefuriths?


Not enough MP
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OmegaShinkai 12 hours ago#15
frozenshock posted...
LordMarshal posted...
Why downt dey use da meteor spell like da sefuriths?


Not enough MP

This, remember when Tellah tried it?
ssj3vegeta posted...
Attack before dey have any time to react



Boom, why can't i be in charge

They simply aren't interested in letting internet wannabe gangsters be commanders.
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Antifar 9 hours ago#17
Because millions of people would die
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Paragon21XX 9 hours ago#18
Unless we can perform a simultaneous strike on every single artillery cannon aimed at South Korea, a first strike is a terrible idea as those things are going off and hitting every major populated area within range at the first sign of incursion.
Hmm...
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.

I mean yeah, that goes for almost any military intervention. Purely humanitarian efforts usually fall flat because the involved governments have very little incentive to pour money into a massive operation.

But it's not just resources. Strategic power control within a region and diplomatic relations are also a huge factor. This would be the reason for the US to go to war with North Korea. The reason we don't is, put simply, China and nukes.
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Autocraticus 8 hours ago#20
America bombs North Korea: "WTF Trump."


America Ignores North Korea: "WTF Trump."
YookaLaylee 8 hours ago#21
Chicken posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.


This is the most ignorant post I've read in weeks.


Prove me wrong.

WW 1
ehhwhatever 8 hours ago#22
Look what happened when America stuck it's fingers in the machinery of the middle east. It is happening again in the far east. If I was China or Japan I would really put pressure on NK and keep the yanks from messing up the area.
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iosifsvoboda 8 hours ago#23
What do you mean they have no resources? That's nonsense
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pinky0926 8 hours ago#24
Paragon21XX posted...
Unless we can perform a simultaneous strike on every single artillery cannon aimed at South Korea, a first strike is a terrible idea as those things are going off and hitting every major populated area within range at the first sign of incursion.


Yeah, I think a lot of people don't realise that the distance from Pyongyang to Seoul is less than 200kms. That's less than the distance from London to Manchester.
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ssj3vegeta posted...
Attack before dey have any time to react



Boom, why can't i be in charge

Because you tried to destroy all life on Earth when you first landed. Remember that Vegeta?
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Ivynn 8 hours ago#26
pinky0926 posted...
the distance from Pyongyang to Seoul is less than 200kms.


Freedom units, pls
Paragon21XX 8 hours ago#27
Ivynn posted...
pinky0926 posted...
the distance from Pyongyang to Seoul is less than 200kms.


Freedom units, pls

<125 miles
Hmm...
Ivynn 8 hours ago#28
Paragon21XX posted...
Ivynn posted...
pinky0926 posted...
the distance from Pyongyang to Seoul is less than 200kms.


Freedom units, pls

<125 miles


You are a patriot.
Darkman124 8 hours ago#29
iosifsvoboda posted...
What do you mean they have no resources? That's nonsense


main resource of NK is coal
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HBOSS 8 hours ago#30
North Korea is an established state.
The terrorist cells arent.

The strike first worked because the targets are nonstate entities. Since nothing was done to prevent and stop the growth of terrorist cells, the US LED forces to combat against terrorism. All you see in news was US fighting. You did hear a small bit about the other countries supporting their efforts. But all we hear and know is the US strikes and not the collab of them and others. I believe a more accurate headline is US led strikes with allied support. But the biggest force get all the credit when its not favored in the world.

If we strike first against North Korea, its a recognized act of war and others will get involved. NK will act in self defense and preservation of their country. Theyll rally for support being a smaller nation.

The damage feared from another (or continuation) Korean War will further destabilize the region. Itll put Russia and China in factors of the war. 

Geologically, they will have the advantage cause their full forces are there. The US installations there will be elminated first. Then therell be no US presence in the region. The war will escalate towards US allies in the Pacific since theyll be the primary staging area.
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Canuklehead 8 hours ago#31
No point in a first strike when your target is very unlikely to actually start some s*** on their own and the friendly/innocent casualties will be extremely high.

They're basically holding SK hostage since they'll be able to dish out a lot of damage and casualties before US/coalition forces would be able to stop them. Contrary to popular belief, Kim probably isn't that dumb and would rather keep his dictatorship in tact.
buddhamonster 8 hours ago#32
YookaLaylee posted...
Chicken posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.


This is the most ignorant post I've read in weeks.


Prove me wrong.

WW 1


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Pick a better example. Oh, and read a history book or two.
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YookaLaylee 8 hours ago#33
buddhamonster posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Chicken posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.


This is the most ignorant post I've read in weeks.


Prove me wrong.

WW 1


Oh yea, ensuring collection on the billions of dollars of debt accrued by the Entente and attempting to literally shape the global borders by implanting yourself in the European geopolitical landscape was just a happy coincidence! Nothing gained there, no siree!

Pick a better example. Oh, and read a history book or two.

Chill
BigTee66 7 hours ago#34
Its a huge risk, China and Russia would NOT like that, theres no reason to be in a war with them seeing that it will be a very close win, and that everyone land is nothing by ember
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Veggeta_MAX 7 hours ago#35
Perhaps because their country is home to millions of innocent civilians who never did anything to hurt anyone and were simply born into a totalitarian communist country that they are not allowed to leave. That might have something to do with it.
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V-E-G-Y- 3 hours ago#36
OmegaShinkai 3 hours ago#37
HBOSS posted...
The US installations there will be elminated first.

No, I'm pretty sure Seoul will be eliminated first.
Chicken 1 hour ago#38
YookaLaylee posted...
buddhamonster posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Chicken posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.


This is the most ignorant post I've read in weeks.


Prove me wrong.

WW 1


Oh yea, ensuring collection on the billions of dollars of debt accrued by the Entente and attempting to literally shape the global borders by implanting yourself in the European geopolitical landscape was just a happy coincidence! Nothing gained there, no siree!

Pick a better example. Oh, and read a history book or two.

Chill


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YookaLaylee posted...
buddhamonster posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Chicken posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Chicken posted...
America only blows up countries with resources they can steal.


This is the most ignorant post I've read in weeks.


Prove me wrong.

WW 1


Oh yea, ensuring collection on the billions of dollars of debt accrued by the Entente and attempting to literally shape the global borders by implanting yourself in the European geopolitical landscape was just a happy coincidence! Nothing gained there, no siree!

Pick a better example. Oh, and read a history book or two.

Chill


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Any kind of strike could end up killing hundreds of thousands/millions of people. That's why the previous 4 presidents have opted to go the diplomatic route. All 4 failed to slow the progress of North Korea.

It's even more dangerous now that they have nukes. NK has missiles pointed at Seoul right now. 28,500 US troops are stationed in South Korea. All of them are at risk. If we take any action, Seoul could end up being a pile of rubble.

The only way to stop this now is to identify all their nuclear sites and destroy it. Then finally, take out Kim. Much easier said than done.
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StickFigures720 20 minutes ago#42
V-E-G-Y- posted...
I'm telling you guys, hit dem first cause dey got dem nuclear missles now

Because you know, let's nuke a country head first, forget the fact that there are hundreds if not thousands of innocent people who would be likely caught in the crossfire and the possibly of provoking war with China and Russia.
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Nikra 4 minutes ago#43
A golden rule says: The first one to launch a nuke, will get the next one. And that still apply.
ssj3vegeta2 3 minutes ago#44
Nikra posted...
A golden rule says: The first one to launch a nuke, will get the next one. And that still apply.

USA has launched 2
Nikra 1 minute ago#45
ssj3vegeta2 posted...
Nikra posted...
A golden rule says: The first one to launch a nuke, will get the next one. And that still apply.

USA has launched 2

That doesn't count: Nobody else had the bomb when that happened.
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