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October 13, 2017

Bar makes girl drinks liquid nitrogen. She loses her stomach.

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frozenshock 1 week ago#1
This is horrible.
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Flasbangs 1 week ago#3
Amazing to live in a world where you can lose your stomach and talk about it afterwards.
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mirage_004 1 week ago#4
She doesn't sound very smart.
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frozenshock 1 week ago#5
It seems the bar had to pay a fine

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/17/oscars-wine-bar-lancaster-gaby-scanlon-stomach-liquid-nitrogen

I wonder if they serve plutonium-flavored spaghetti
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Philoktetes 1 week ago#6
can you live without a stomach
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EnragedSlith 1 week ago#7
The bar didn't make her do anything. Not sure why they're serving shit like this, though
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DevsBro 1 week ago#8
Yikes.

Is it true tht some chefs literally use Liquid Nitrogen in their food, like the article suggests? I guess tiny quantities that will evaporte away before the guest can eat the food?
s0nicfan 1 week ago#9
t was made popular by celebrity chefs, including Heston Blumenthal, and is completely harmless as a gas.

But if the nitrogen has not burned away fully, as a liquid it has the power to freeze objects in a matter of seconds. Touching the liquid can give you severe cryogenic, or cold, burns.


So it was a shitty bartender, according to the article. Like if you tried to eat pufferfish from someone who doesn't know what they're doing. That sucks.
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kingdrake2 1 week ago#10
a fine wont bring back the girl's stomach. still sucks regardless.
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Banjo2553 1 week ago#11
...She literally had her stomach removed? Ouch.
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Pogo_Marimo 1 week ago#13
DevsBro posted...
Yikes.

Is it true tht some chefs literally use Liquid Nitrogen in their food, like the article suggests? I guess tiny quantities that will evaporte away before the guest can eat the food?

It can be used safely to flash-freeze stuff inserted into a container of it, but to actually put it into a container of food seems reckless and stupid.
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DevsBro posted...
Yikes.

Is it true tht some chefs literally use Liquid Nitrogen in their food, like the article suggests? I guess tiny quantities that will evaporte away before the guest can eat the food?


It's used when someone needs to freeze something really fast. Like "oh shit, we're out of ice cream and a customer wants ice cream and no time to make more" people use liquid nitrogen.

It's also used for things like making quick chocolate molds and such.

As for how she was able to drink it? it's a little unintuitive, but your body is so hot, the liquid nitrogen evaporates before touching your skin, however, that cools down the air around your skin slightly and the process keeps repeating until it actually touches your skin at which point you're fucked.

here is a video of a guy sticking his bare hand into liquid nitrogen (DO NOT ATTEMPT)

frozenshock 1 week ago#15
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Two_Dee  likes me1 week ago#16
whats worse is that this bar is supporting UNDERAGE drinking

smh
frozenshock 1 week ago#17
EnragedSlith posted...
The bar didn't make her do anything. Not sure why they're serving shit like this, though


I... don't think the girl shares any of the blame here. If you get a drink from a bar, you have the right to expect it won't burn right through your stomach.
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Muffinz0rz 1 week ago#18
Not bothering to click the article, but does someone want to clarify - 

Bar MAKES girl drink(s) liquid nitrogen


They MADE her drink it?
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PiOverlord 1 week ago#19
Poor girl. :(

I hope she is able to be compensated heavily as I imagine life won't be easy.
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gafemaqs 1 week ago#20
I remember when this happened
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pinky0926 1 week ago#21
DevsBro posted...
Yikes.

Is it true tht some chefs literally use Liquid Nitrogen in their food, like the article suggests? I guess tiny quantities that will evaporte away before the guest can eat the food?


It's a common "wow" technique used in cocktail bars and fancy restaurants. It's really basic, everything just smokes a lot which looks impressive but otherwise adds nothing to the food and drink. 

I've never heard of someone being injured by it before though, and this is really fucking horrible.

Edit: that might not be what you were asking
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frozenshock 1 week ago#22
Muffinz0rz posted...
They MADE her drink it?


Well, they didn't put a gun to her head and pour it down her throat if that's what you're asking.
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this makes me very very angry
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Muffinz0rz 1 week ago#24
frozenshock posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
They MADE her drink it?


Well, they didn't put a gun to her head and pour it down her throat if that's what you're asking.

That is what I'm asking because that's what the topic title implies
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Sir Will 1 week ago#25
Two_Dee posted...
whats worse is that this bar is supporting UNDERAGE drinking

smh

Eh? She was legal.

This is really fucked up.
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frozenshock 1 week ago#26
Muffinz0rz posted...
That is what I'm asking because that's what the topic title implies


I don't think too many people would've been confused by it, tbh
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Muffinz0rz 1 week ago#27
frozenshock posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
That is what I'm asking because that's what the topic title implies


I don't think too many people would've been confused by it, tbh

frozenshock posted...
Bar makes girl drinks liquid nitrogen

You can't possibly look someone in the eye and say this isn't misleading (even with the extra S at the end of "drinks")
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frozenshock 1 week ago#28
Muffinz0rz posted...
You can't possibly look someone in the eye and say this isn't misleading (even with the extra S at the end of "drinks")


Fine, you win, it's misleading. I should have said "offers a drink" or something.

I guess this means it's the girl's fault, then.
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Muffinz0rz 1 week ago#29
frozenshock posted...
you win

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darkphoenix181 posted...
as someone who has been in the hospital unable to eat being fed by a tube into my blood

this makes me very very angry


That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.

Would you be angry at a bar that gave out a free shot and the patron decided to start hitting people?
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frozenshock 1 week ago#31
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.

Would you be angry at a bar that gave out a free shot and the patron decided to start hitting people?


I can't people people are actually blaming the girl. It has to be trolling, seriously.
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HypnoCoosh 1 week ago#32
Most important lesson here for people.

Don't drink liquid nitrogen.
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frogman_295 1 week ago#33
man she's stupid
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frozenshock posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.

Would you be angry at a bar that gave out a free shot and the patron decided to start hitting people?


I can't people people are actually blaming the girl. It has to be trolling, seriously.


They have her a drink. Told her to wait and then take it.

Do you side with the woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot and burning her? 

People have no sense of personal responsibility.

If you're hungry and a friend says you can use my stove but don't touch it and you burn your hand off is it your friends fault?
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Sir Will 1 week ago#35
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Do you side with the woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot and burning her?

Yes. The coffee was kept far hotter than it was supposed to be. people keep bringing up this example when in fact McDonalds was in the wrong and the courts said so.
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frozenshock 1 week ago#36
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
They have her a drink. Told her to wait and then take it.

Do you side with the woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot and burning her?

People have no sense of personal responsibility.

If you're hungry and a friend says you can use my stove but don't touch it and you burn your hand off is it your friends fault?


Ok, you're trolling. No one can be that dense.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.


why give it to her then if it was undrinkable?
why not make it, let it sit till safe, then give it?
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@Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Do you side with the woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot and burning her?


yes actually because I actually looked into the story unlike you

McDonald's was 100% at fault
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PiOverlord 1 week ago#39
darkphoenix181 posted...
@Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Do you side with the woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot and burning her?


yes actually because I actually looked into the story unlike you

McDonald's was 100% at fault
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frozenshock 1 week ago#40
That McDonald's case was the target of a huge propaganda campaign though
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Sami1000 1 week ago#41
Doctors say her small intestine will, over time, adapt - creating a pouch to digest her food, but she faces a lifetime of pain.


Why the fuck they sell drinks like that???
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Kanaya413 1 week ago#42
How awful :(
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frogman_295 1 week ago#43
that's really sad. i wish they could give her an artificial stomach at least.
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PiOverlord posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
@Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Do you side with the woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot and burning her?


yes actually because I actually looked into the story unlike you

McDonald's was 100% at fault


Was that the one where the lid wasn't secured and caused the spill or was it actually brewed too hot. Either way I was just making a point and most people remember it as "woman paid millions because coffee was hot". 

darkphoenix181 posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.


why give it to her then if it was undrinkable?
why not make it, let it sit till safe, then give it?


Because it's cool looking? I've been served drinks that are on fire. I've served drinks that are on fire. Never witnessed someone attempt to drink it while it was on fire.

frozenshock posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
They have her a drink. Told her to wait and then take it.

Do you side with the woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot and burning her?

People have no sense of personal responsibility.

If you're hungry and a friend says you can use my stove but don't touch it and you burn your hand off is it your friends fault?


Ok, you're trolling. No one can be that dense.


Im absolutely not. Bartender hands me something and says wait for this then I would wait. Unless it's a cement mixer. I ain't falling for that. 

I think the idea of having something like that is dumb to begin with but if it's legal and she was told I don't see how you can fault the bar.
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@Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Was that the one where the lid wasn't secured and caused the spill or was it actually brewed too hot. Either way I was just making a point and most people remember it as "woman paid millions because coffee was hot".


you made no point because the coffee was so hot it melted her skin and put her in the hospital requiring a skin graft

you didn't know that did you? be honest

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Because it's cool looking? I've been served drinks that are on fire. I've served drinks that are on fire. Never witnessed someone attempt to drink it while it was on fire.


so you are a bartender?

do you serve these nitrogen drinks and tell people not to drink them?
how do they know when they are safe to drink?
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Sir Will 1 week ago#46
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
I've served drinks that are on fire. Never witnessed someone attempt to drink it while it was on fire.

Not the same.
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GiftedACIII 1 week ago#47
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Axiom 1 week ago#48
Wtf. Why is the bar still allowed to operate
darkphoenix181 posted...
@Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Was that the one where the lid wasn't secured and caused the spill or was it actually brewed too hot. Either way I was just making a point and most people remember it as "woman paid millions because coffee was hot".


you made no point because the coffee was so hot it melted her skin and put her in the hospital requiring a skin graft

you didn't know that did you? be honest

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Because it's cool looking? I've been served drinks that are on fire. I've served drinks that are on fire. Never witnessed someone attempt to drink it while it was on fire.


so you are a bartender?

do you serve these nitrogen drinks and tell people not to drink them?
how do they know when they are safe to drink?


I couldn't remember if it was well past what McDonald's heat for coffee should have been or if it was an unsecured lid. I read on reddit a while back where people were talking about how the case gets used as an example of frivolous when it was actually a good suit.

That said it's used as an example of frivolous and that is was what I was trying to get across. I suppose I could have said do you support someone sueing Starbucks because there coffee was hot and they burned their tongue.

And no I've never made this and it seems crazy to me that it's legal. That said if she was told to wait and didn't and it is legal I don't see why it would be on the bar.

From what the article is saying it sounds like it's safe when it stops giving off the smoke. If handed this and told to wait thats what I would wait for.

Sir Will posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
I've served drinks that are on fire. Never witnessed someone attempt to drink it while it was on fire.

Not the same.


Can you explain the difference to me?
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Can you explain the difference to me?

fire = bad is a common sense and instinctual thing. Obviously people aren't going to approach something on fire. Not the same as whatever the hell you're doing to their drinks with supercool chemicals.
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    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    darkphoenix181 posted...
    as someone who has been in the hospital unable to eat being fed by a tube into my blood

    this makes me very very angry


    That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.

    I read the article and didn't see that anywhere. The bartender told her she'd get a bit gassy from the drink, but didn't seem to say anything that would suggest that the drink was potentially dangerous.
    Sir Will posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Can you explain the difference to me?

    fire = bad is a common sense and instinctual thing. Obviously people aren't going to approach something on fire. Not the same as whatever the hell you're doing to their drinks with supercool chemicals.


    Chemicals can be, and many are just as if not more dangerous than fire...
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    Muffinz0rz posted...
    Not bothering to click the article, but does someone want to clarify - 

    Bar MAKES girl drink(s) liquid nitrogen


    They MADE her drink it?

    Yes they did. It wasn’t a dare where they said “this could hurt you do it!”...They use the nitrogen for effect and led her to believe it was a safe shot to take. Clearly they fucked up and their fuck up led to this.
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    Sir Will 1 week ago#54
    LightHawKnight posted...
    Sir Will posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Can you explain the difference to me?

    fire = bad is a common sense and instinctual thing. Obviously people aren't going to approach something on fire. Not the same as whatever the hell you're doing to their drinks with supercool chemicals.


    Chemicals can be, and many are just as if not more dangerous than fire...

    ...uh huh. My point is such danger is harder to perceive.
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    Sir Will posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Can you explain the difference to me?

    fire = bad is a common sense and instinctual thing. Obviously people aren't going to approach something on fire. Not the same as whatever the hell you're doing to their drinks with supercool chemicals.


    I mean at least to me I think taking the shot on fire seems more likely. Like I might have tried if I could have done it without burning my upper lip. Kind of the same thought as putting out a lighter with your finger. Doesn't burn because it goes out right away. 

    I'm certainly not gonna take something that's steaming off especially after a warning.

    I feel bad for the girl and think this sounds ridiculous and shouldn't be legal but given that it's legal and the warning is given I can't see this as the bars fault.
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    DarkDragon400 posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    darkphoenix181 posted...
    as someone who has been in the hospital unable to eat being fed by a tube into my blood

    this makes me very very angry


    That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.

    I read the article and didn't see that anywhere. The bartender told her she'd get a bit gassy from the drink, but didn't seem to say anything that would suggest that the drink was potentially dangerous.


    "I was just told to wait a couple of seconds for the vapours to evaporate." 

    Im assuming it's safe after the vapors are gone and that's what she was supposed to wait for. That said upon rereading i think I might have changed my mind. Doesn't sound like a real warning was given. My opinion would depend on exactly what was said.
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    Sir Will posted...
    LightHawKnight posted...
    Sir Will posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Can you explain the difference to me?

    fire = bad is a common sense and instinctual thing. Obviously people aren't going to approach something on fire. Not the same as whatever the hell you're doing to their drinks with supercool chemicals.


    Chemicals can be, and many are just as if not more dangerous than fire...

    ...uh huh. My point is such danger is harder to perceive.


    How? Unless you never taken chemistry before, and that would place you at an elementary school age.
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    @Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    I couldn't remember if it was well past what McDonald's heat for coffee should have been or if it was an unsecured lid. I read on reddit a while back where people were talking about how the case gets used as an example of frivolous when it was actually a good suit.

    That said it's used as an example of frivolous and that is was what I was trying to get across. I suppose I could have said do you support someone sueing Starbucks because there coffee was hot and they burned their tongue.


    that makes no sense

    how can you use a case that is 100% NOT frivolous
    as an example of frivolous cases

    just stop and think for a second please

    maybe find a case where someone sued starbucks for that, except there probably isn't such a case

    instead McDonalds literally had coffee so hot it melted skin

    and btw
    -this woman sued after McDonalds refused to pay her medical bills
    -she didn't sue for millions, the court felt that was a necessary punishment (she only sued for her bill cost; and in the end she got much less money than advertised)
    -many other people that her had their skin burned off for McDonalds coffee and that was why the court felt McDonalds needed a punishment
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    Laserion 1 week ago#59
    After the McDonald's case, every fast food has "Caution! Hot" all around their cups. Does this now count as good enough warning if you burn yourself from now on? What needs to be made clear is if the bartender gave a good enough warning about how long to wait (until the vapors dissipate, perhaps?) before drinking, or failed to do so.
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    darkphoenix181 posted...
    @Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    I couldn't remember if it was well past what McDonald's heat for coffee should have been or if it was an unsecured lid. I read on reddit a while back where people were talking about how the case gets used as an example of frivolous when it was actually a good suit.

    That said it's used as an example of frivolous and that is was what I was trying to get across. I suppose I could have said do you support someone sueing Starbucks because there coffee was hot and they burned their tongue.


    that makes no sense

    how can you use a case that is 100% NOT frivolous
    as an example of frivolous cases

    just stop and think for a second please

    maybe find a case where someone sued starbucks for that, except there probably isn't such a case

    instead McDonalds literally had coffee so hot it melted skin

    and btw
    -this woman sued after McDonalds refused to pay her medical bills
    -she didn't sue for millions, the court felt that was a necessary punishment (she only sued for her bill cost; and in the end she got much less money than advertised)
    -many other people that her had their skin burned off for McDonalds coffee and that was why the court felt McDonalds needed a punishment


    Because if Literally everyone uses something one way it can convey meaning that isn't exactly the definition.

    If most people equate that case with frivolous law suits and sueing because coffee is hot then using it as an example of coffee being hot and burning yourself with it is a fine example.
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    Every normal functioning persons knows that hot drinks(and fire) are hot, and thus can cause injury. But many people don't know what liquid nitrogen is, nor how cold it is. After all most people don't encounter it outside laboratories, or gastropubs.
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    mustachedmystic posted...
    Every normal functioning persons knows that hot drinks(and fire) are hot, and thus can cause injury. But many people don't know what liquid nitrogen is, nor how cold it is. After all most people don't encounter it outside laboratories, or gastropubs.


    Did you never take a high school chemistry class? I mean many a teacher will demonstrate with Liquid Nitrogen on the first day for something cool and fun to look at.
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    Muffinz0rz posted...
    Not bothering to click the article, but does someone want to clarify - 

    Bar MAKES girl drink(s) liquid nitrogen


    They MADE her drink it?


    Kind of.

    When made properly, the drink doesn't contain liquid nitrogen. When made improperly, it does.

    She didn't ask for liquid nitrogen...
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    L0Z 1 week ago#64
    Philoktetes posted...
    can you live without a stomach


    Yeah its no different than a stomach bypass surgery that people get to lose weight
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Because if Literally everyone uses something one way it can convey meaning that isn't exactly the definition.

    If most people equate that case with frivolous law suits and sueing because coffee is hot then using it as an example of coffee being hot and burning yourself with it is a fine example.


    those people use it as an example because they never actually looked into the case and are ignorant about the whole thing

    they think she got a minor burn, sued and won millions of dollars

    which is completely not what happened

    so no, it doesn't work that way sorry
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    eston 1 week ago#66
    The bar was stupid for putting it in a shot, aka a beverage that is intended to be drank quickly. Of course she didn't wait long enough
    darkphoenix181 posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Because if Literally everyone uses something one way it can convey meaning that isn't exactly the definition.

    If most people equate that case with frivolous law suits and sueing because coffee is hot then using it as an example of coffee being hot and burning yourself with it is a fine example.


    those people use it as an example because they never actually looked into the case and are ignorant about the whole thing

    they think she got a minor burn, sued and won millions of dollars

    which is completely not what happened

    so no, it doesn't work that way sorry


    OK so you admit people think that she receives minor wounds and sued and won millions.

    Given that people believe that regardless of what actually happened then they would understand my the message I was trying to convey. The same as my use of the world literally above.

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    Muffinz0rz posted...
    Not bothering to click the article, but does someone want to clarify - 

    Bar MAKES girl drink(s) liquid nitrogen


    They MADE her drink it?


    Kind of.

    When made properly, the drink doesn't contain liquid nitrogen. When made improperly, it does.

    She didn't ask for liquid nitrogen...


    They didn't make her drink it. They handed her a drink that she decided to take.

    You can tell someone you don't want a drink.
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    Sir Will 1 week ago#68
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Given that people believe that regardless of what actually happened then they would understand my the message I was trying to convey.

    Perpetuating this belief is wrong.
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    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    OK so you admit people think that she receives minor wounds and sued and won millions.

    Given that people believe that regardless of what actually happened then they would understand my the message I was trying to convey. The same as my use of the world literally above.


    so because people are misinformed we should use it in a misinformed way too?

    what a bad mindset

    but in reality I think you are just trying to save face for not knowing the coffee literally melted off her skin and she had to have a skin graft
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    LightHawKnight posted...
    Did you never take a high school chemistry class? I mean many a teacher will demonstrate with Liquid Nitrogen on the first day for something cool and fun to look at.


    I didn't say I don't know what it is. Just because you and I know something, that doesn't mean everyone else does. Even people who are richer, smarter or more successful than you, or I.
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    Sir Will posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Given that people believe that regardless of what actually happened then they would understand my the message I was trying to convey.

    Perpetuating this belief is wrong.


    Why? The purpose of language is to convey meaning. If it does so its communicating effectively.

    darkphoenix181 posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    OK so you admit people think that she receives minor wounds and sued and won millions.

    Given that people believe that regardless of what actually happened then they would understand my the message I was trying to convey. The same as my use of the world literally above.


    so because people are misinformed we should use it in a misinformed way too?

    what a bad mindset

    but in reality I think you are just trying to save face for not knowing the coffee literally melted off her skin and she had to have a skin graft


    Do you correct people that use literally wrong? Language is about what communication and if someone understands what's being said the particulars of a case are unimportant.

    Hell you understood the point and decided to try and discredit it by attacking something that had nothing to do with what was being discussed.

    And no Im not trying to save face. I've already said I couldn't remember the particulars of the case and changed my position on the original purpose of this topic. I have no problems admitting when I'm wrong or changing my opinions with more information.
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    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

    If most people equate that case with frivolous law suits and sueing because coffee is hot then using it as an example of coffee being hot and burning yourself with it is a fine example.


    The coffee was kept well above safe temperatures. You can't just pass out boiling water to people like that.
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    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Why?

    You seriously can't see how circulating and reinforcing wrong information is bad? Seriously?
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    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    Do you correct people that use literally wrong? Language is about what communication and if someone understands what's being said the particulars of a case are unimportant.

    Hell you understood the point and decided to try and discredit it by attacking something that had nothing to do with what was being discussed.

    And no Im not trying to save face. I've already said I couldn't remember the particulars of the case and changed my position on the original purpose of this topic. I have no problems admitting when I'm wrong or changing my opinions with more information.


    I do

    that is why you cannot use a case that is LITERALLY not frivolous

    to say "guh ha another frivolous case like that one! that is ...not actually...frivolous"

    and other people doing so are doing so in great ignorance perpetuating a lie, so why do you feel they shouldn't be corrected?
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    Sexypwnstar 1 week ago#75
    mustachedmystic posted...
    LightHawKnight posted...
    Did you never take a high school chemistry class? I mean many a teacher will demonstrate with Liquid Nitrogen on the first day for something cool and fun to look at.


    I didn't say I don't know what it is. Just because you and I know something, that doesn't mean everyone else does. Even people who are richer, smarter or more successful than you, or I.


    An 18 year old should have taken a highschool chemistry class.
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    LightHawKnight posted...
    An 18 year old should have taken a highschool chemistry class.


    That may be, but doesn't change the fact that not everyone knows what liquid nitrogen is, or how damaging it can be.
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    A_Good_Boy 1 week ago#78
    LightHawKnight posted...
    mustachedmystic posted...
    LightHawKnight posted... 
    Did you never take a high school chemistry class? I mean many a teacher will demonstrate with Liquid Nitrogen on the first day for something cool and fun to look at. 


    I didn't say I don't know what it is. Just because you and I know something, that doesn't mean everyone else does. Even people who are richer, smarter or more successful than you, or I.


    An 18 year old should have taken a highschool chemistry class.

    And not the bartender that served the drink?
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    Sami1000 1 week ago#79
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    DarkDragon400 posted...
    Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
    darkphoenix181 posted...
    as someone who has been in the hospital unable to eat being fed by a tube into my blood

    this makes me very very angry


    That they gave her a free drink for her birthday, told her to wait for the nitrogen to finish and she took it early.

    I read the article and didn't see that anywhere. The bartender told her she'd get a bit gassy from the drink, but didn't seem to say anything that would suggest that the drink was potentially dangerous.


    "I was just told to wait a couple of seconds for the vapours to evaporate." 

    Im assuming it's safe after the vapors are gone and that's what she was supposed to wait for. That said upon rereading i think I might have changed my mind. Doesn't sound like a real warning was given. My opinion would depend on exactly what was said.


    Even if she was told to wait certain time, i would still be on her side. People don't go to bars and stay sober while spending quality time there. They shouldn't serve dangerous drinks to people who are drunk, drinks that could even kill them. 

    Maybe someone thinks the worst thing that could happen is that they feel gassy as bartender said, or the drink would just taste different. 

    Maybe if they told the customer that you might fucking DIE drinking this, and make them sign some papers, then i would somewhat accept that.
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    Endofall 1 week ago#81
    That bartender fucked up bad
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    untrustful 5 days ago#83
    This stuff should be illegal to handle.
    untrustful posted...
    This stuff should be illegal to handle.

    Don't demand the government make it illegal when it's just that bartender being shit at his job. At most push for something like a fugu-license.
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    untrustful posted...
    This stuff should be illegal to handle.

    Don't demand the government make it illegal when it's just that bartender being shit at his job. At most push for something like a fugu-license.

    The U.K. has made much lesser things illegal though
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