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July 20, 2017

Conservatives throw a fit over Doctor Who

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-reaction-10810008

I've been looking through the comments section of other news websites reporting this, and conservatives are very triggered. Do they need a safe space?
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Porunga 3 days ago#2
hivebent4life posted...
conservatives are very triggered. Do they need a safe space?

They always do.
I don't get that show. The only possible appeal to it I can see is a "so bad that it's funny" angle which I don't think works when you do it intentionally. Especially when you do it intentionally for decades.
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Gryffindor1 3 days ago#4
Wtf, didn't they just announce that old guy as the new Doctor Who like a year ago?
Nitro378 3 days ago#5
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wtf, didn't they just announce that old guy as the new Doctor Who like a year ago?

Yeah he only did one series plus I guess a feature length TV movie to wrap around to the new Doctor.
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Gryffindor1 3 days ago#6
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wtf, didn't they just announce that old guy as the new Doctor Who like a year ago?

Yeah he only did one series plus I guess a feature length TV movie to wrap around to the new Doctor.


British TV is weird.
kaiolino 3 days ago#7
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wtf, didn't they just announce that old guy as the new Doctor Who like a year ago?

Yeah he only did one series plus I guess a feature length TV movie to wrap around to the new Doctor.


He did three series and was announced almost exactly 4 years ago.
untrustful 3 days ago#8
Plus there were really heavy rumors that it was gonna happen. It's not a big deal since this isn't some random sjw mutation, it's explained in the show that a time lord can change appearances to the point of changing genders.

complainer posted...
I mean what's next? First he's a man, then a woman, then a reptile, hell why not a different alien? This diversity for diversity's sake. It's the same slippery slope that exists for gay marriage. Well that's it I'm just not gonna watch doctor who anymore until they start making sense, IF that happens.
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Gryffindor1 3 days ago#9
kaiolino posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wtf, didn't they just announce that old guy as the new Doctor Who like a year ago?

Yeah he only did one series plus I guess a feature length TV movie to wrap around to the new Doctor.


He did three series and was announced almost exactly 4 years ago.


I don't watch Doctor Who. Does the current Doctor pass on the title of Doctor to a new person like every 5 years, or is it a completely new storyline in a different universe when there is a new Doctor?
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untrustful 3 days ago#10
It's a guy who changes form. This new form is going to be a woman instead of a man.
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ZeroX91 3 days ago#11
I don't understand why they just didn't focus on his daughter or River for a season or two, they both have the tardis at one point which means they have it at all points.
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LightSnake 3 days ago#12
Gryffindor1 posted...
kaiolino posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wtf, didn't they just announce that old guy as the new Doctor Who like a year ago?

Yeah he only did one series plus I guess a feature length TV movie to wrap around to the new Doctor.


He did three series and was announced almost exactly 4 years ago.


I don't watch Doctor Who. Does the current Doctor pass on the title of Doctor to a new person like every 5 years, or is it a completely new storyline in a different universe when there is a new Doctor?


It's the same being. His race can simply regenerate into a new form with a new personality when the current body gives out. It's also been established this can involve changing gender, race, etc.
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#13
Now we just need a female Link in the next Legend of Zelda.
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I mean, The Docktr's nemesis regenerated into a woman, so why not?
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Gryffindor1 3 days ago#15
Iwantedzero posted...
Now we just need a female Link in the next Legend of Zelda.


The Legend of Link?
Leejcqlyn 3 days ago#16
Iwantedzero posted...
Now we just need a female Link in the next Legend of Zelda.

Nintendo is not that dumb
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#17
Leejcqlyn posted...
Nintendo is not that dumb


Did you even see the Wii U? I don't think "not that dumb" can ever be applied to them.
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lilORANG 3 days ago#18
Imagine being this Jodi lady and getting offered the role of a lifetime and everyone hates you for it for no reason other than your sex.
Leejcqlyn 3 days ago#19
Iwantedzero posted...
Leejcqlyn posted...
Nintendo is not that dumb


Did you even see the Wii U? I don't think "not that dumb" can ever be applied to them.

The Wii U is a solid console just had poor marketing and zero third party support
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#20
The controller was a good idea but the actual console wasn't a significant enough upgrade from the Wii to be worth it. Even the name was dumb.
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Leejcqlyn 3 days ago#21
Iwantedzero posted...
The controller was a good idea but the actual console wasn't a significant enough upgrade from the Wii to be worth it. Even the name was dumb.

I don't disagree about it's power or the name being dumb. Despite that though it had some great exclusives
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Relle 3 days ago#22
Iwantedzero posted...
The controller was a good idea but the actual console wasn't a significant enough upgrade from the Wii to be worth it. Even the name was dumb.

The hardware is/was irrelevant. It had enough (actual) exclusives to warrant a purchase.

And you can tell who the misogynists are if they're talking about dropping Doctor Who because of this.
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#23
I mean I did purchase one but exclusives are themselves a pretty objectionable practice. 

But, yeah, the lore makes it totally reasonable to have a female doctor so why not?
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Relle 3 days ago#25
Iwantedzero posted...
I mean I did purchase one but exclusives are themselves a pretty objectionable practice.

Why buy any console if it doesn't have exclusives? They're all pretty much the same hardware-wise, so if something's on PC as well as consoles, I'll buy it for my PC and play it at much higher graphical levels. No reason to drop $300-400 on a piece of hardware if I can play the games elsewhere.
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ZeroX91 posted...
I don't understand why they just didn't focus on his daughter or River for a season or two, they both have the tardis at one point which means they have it at all points.

Pretty simple.

Because it's not about female characters. It's about forcing a change in culture.

Most of those yelling about how great it is don't care that it's a female character. They're celebrating removing a male one.

They see it as doing one of two things:

1) It stays popular and they can point to it and go "See they did it why don't you now" to other creators.

2) It fails and they can blame the poor ratings on the evil sexists out there. Thus backing up their world view that everything is sexist and against them.

If they really cared about female leads they'd have mentioned how good the Sarah Jane Jane adventure was, celebrating Gwen in Torchwood or you know supporting a female lead Sci-Fi series like Continnum.

They go after big names because they want to force cultural change and force people to accept their new normal or be pushed out.

Look up Atheism Plus or the claims of how walking simulators were the future of video games and people not liking them should leave gaming

Iwantedzero posted...
Now we just need a female Link in the next Legend of Zelda.

And the Black Lesbian James Bond, don't forget that one.
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untrustful 3 days ago#27
Dwavenhobble posted...
Torchwood


no
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SNeIa 3 days ago#28
bob_5 posted...
Is Doctor Who a good show?



It's certainly a long-runner and science fiction / British cultural icon. The older series are very much B-movie in their presentation, due to a limited budget, but the revived series has much better production values. The time-traveling nature of the show across the galaxy, allows it to easily accommodate an episodic structure, much like Star Trek, while having some longer plot arcs, usually on a seasonal basis. Each regeneration of the Doctor gives a new actor with a different appearance and portrayal, which also serves to refresh the show. And of course, it's well known for its monsters... especially the Daleks.

Dalek: WHAT? HE HAS NOT WATCHED OUR SHOW? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!!!!!


Just kidding with that last part... but the Daleks are its most recognizable villains... think alien Nazis out to EXTERMINATE! all non-Dalek life.... except their bodies are actually quite frail, so they armor themselves in a heavily armed casing that kind of looks like a pepper shaker in shape with an eyestalk camera and a ray gun sticking out of it.


Then there are the Cybermen. They don't want to kill you. They just want to "upgrade" you into one of them, and get rid of those pesky things called emotions. They're kind of like the Borg. Of course, if you resist being upgraded, they may decide that you need to be "deleted".

Then for paranoia fuel, in the new series, there are the aliens known as the Silence. Their power is that you will immediately forget all about a Silent as soon as you look away from it.
Or for a more classic villain, the Weeping Angels, which look like statues and only move to attack you when you aren't looking at them.

But it has far more villains too, including the Master, the evil counterpart to the time-traveling Doctor.
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#29
Relle posted...
Why buy any console if it doesn't have exclusives? They're all pretty much the same hardware-wise, so if something's on PC as well as consoles, I'll buy it for my PC and play it at much higher graphical levels. No reason to drop $300-400 on a piece of hardware if I can play the games elsewhere.


And that's kind of the point. Why WOULD you go for an inferior option if a better one is available? Why DO you? Exclusives. This shit would not fly in other markets, is the point. 

Dwavenhobble posted...
And the Black Lesbian James Bond, don't forget that one.


Is James Bond always supposed to be the same person, even when portrayed by different actors (ala Sherlock Holmes)? If so, then sure let's keep him the same. 

Is James Bond a name, title or rank given to a spy? Then it can be given to anyone.
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Orca 3 days ago#30
Aww, poor baby Dwaven crying over how a fictional space alien that can choose their form chose a form that looks like the gender that rejects him.
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untrustful posted...
Dwavenhobble posted...
Torchwood


no

Children of Earth was damn good. I get Torchwood the series wasn't great I mean other than the Cyberwoman vs a Pterodactyl but Children of Earth is worth a watch because that really shows the potential of the series. A potential sadly wasted by the follow up Miracle Day.

SNeIa posted...
bob_5 posted...
Is Doctor Who a good show?



It's certainly a long-runner and science fiction / British cultural icon. The older series are very much B-movie in their presentation, due to a limited budget, but the revived series has much better production values. The time-traveling nature of the show across the galaxy, allows it to easily accommodate an episodic structure, much like Star Trek, while having some longer plot arcs, usually on a seasonal basis. Each regeneration of the Doctor gives a new actor with a different appearance and portrayal, which also serves to refresh the show. And of course, it's well known for its monsters... especially the Daleks.

Dalek: WHAT? HE HAS NOT WATCHED OUR SHOW? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!!!!!


Just kidding with that last part... but the Daleks are its most recognizable villains... think alien Nazis out to EXTERMINATE! all non-Dalek life.... except their bodies are actually quite frail, so they armor themselves in a heavily armed casing that kind of looks like a pepper shaker in shape with an eyestalk camera and a ray gun sticking out of it.


Then there are the Cybermen. They don't want to kill you. They just want to "upgrade" you into one of them, and get rid of those pesky things called emotions. They're kind of like the Borg. Of course, if you resist being upgraded, they may decide that you need to be "deleted".



I miss the Dalek civil war. I mean come on the Squishy's vs the Spikeys was such a comedic idea with the Daleks so hating anything different they eventually turn on one another's minor differences.
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bob_5 posted...
Is Doctor Who a good show?

Yes. Well, the quality has varied a lot over the years (and decades), but there's been plenty of good stuff. At its best it's bloody excellent.
LightSnake 3 days ago#33
Best Dalek scene ever?

Cybermen: We have three million Cybermen. How many are you?

Dalek: Four.

Cybermen: You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?

Dalek: We would destroy the Cybermen with ONE Dalek! You are superior in only one respect: you are better at dying.

....the Daleks were winning, btw
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Iwantedzero posted...
Leejcqlyn posted...
Nintendo is not that dumb


Did you even see the Wii U? I don't think "not that dumb" can ever be applied to them.

Don't bother, Nintendo fanboys cannot be reasoned with and will always turn a blind eye to any shortcomings or mistakes their company my have made.
Blarg.
SNeIa 3 days ago#35
@LightSnake Five million Cybermen, actually.
lilORANG posted...
Imagine being this Jodi lady and getting offered the role of a lifetime and everyone hates you for it for no reason other than your sex.

That's conservatism in a nutshell.
Blarg.
Iwantedzero 3 days ago#37
Eliteguard999 posted...
Don't bother, Nintendo fanboys cannot be reasoned with and will always turn a blind eye to any shortcomings or mistakes their company my have made.


That's true of any kind of "Fanboy" though, it's not unique to Nintendo. I like Nintendo, but I'm more than happy to say their consoles are weird and gimmicky.
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Iwantedzero posted...
Eliteguard999 posted...
Don't bother, Nintendo fanboys cannot be reasoned with and will always turn a blind eye to any shortcomings or mistakes their company my have made.


That's true of any kind of "Fanboy" though, it's not unique to Nintendo. I like Nintendo, but I'm more than happy to say their consoles are weird and gimmicky.

I mean more than your average console fan.

If you don't say Zelda BotW is a gaming masterpiece and quite possibly game of the Decade they get the torches and pitchforks.
Blarg.
Meoman 3 days ago#39
A lot of people dislike the change because of the sex change, I'm mad because this is nothing but pure pandering. I'll reserve full judgement until the Christmas special, but really, Doctor Who has been going down the shitter for years.
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#40
Meoman posted...
I'm mad because this is nothing but pure pandering.


So, how can you tell, exactly? What if they've been planning to do this for years and it reflects their true artistic vision?
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I've tried to get into that show a couple times. I just can't. It's like low-budget Star Trek.
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Meoman 3 days ago#42
Iwantedzero posted...
Meoman posted...
I'm mad because this is nothing but pure pandering.


So, how can you tell, exactly? What if they've been planning to do this for years and it reflects their true artistic vision?


No, FANS have been talking about it for years. Give the most obsessive fans what they want, sure, why not.
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#43
Meoman posted...

No, FANS have been talking about it for years.


...right, but how do you know the studio, writers and actors haven't also been talking about it for years? Maybe they've planning this for a long time now. Do you have any evidence that it was a spur of the moment decision?
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Meoman 3 days ago#44
Iwantedzero posted...
Meoman posted...

No, FANS have been talking about it for years.


...right, but how do you know the studio, writers and actors haven't also been talking about it for years? Maybe they've planning this for a long time now. Do you have any evidence that it was a spur of the moment decision?


Do I need proof to state a belief? Where did I post sources?
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Iwantedzero 3 days ago#46
Meoman posted...
Do I need proof to state a belief?


It typically helps when beliefs are predicated on something other than your gut feeling, yes. Especially when you get emotional about it, like you claiming it makes you mad.
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I was always a Blake's 7 guy, myself.

I never got into Doctor Who, but the pissing and moaning about "they're forcing cultural change" is about the most stupid, bitter bullshit that seems to me could only come from MRA/incel types with a crippling fear of women.
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NightlyOne 3 days ago#48
hivebent4life posted...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-reaction-10810008

I've been looking through the comments section of other news websites reporting this, and conservatives are very triggered. Do they need a safe space?

I find it interesting that you say conservatives are triggered based on new website comments, yet linked to one where only one comment is super-outspoken about it and no political affiliation can be ascertained.

Make a believer out of me. Link me to a site with comments where:
-Posters are speaking out against this AND
-Said posters publicly identify as conservative
Meoman 3 days ago#49
Iwantedzero posted...
Meoman posted...
Do I need proof to state a belief?


It typically helps when beliefs are predicated on something other than your gut feeling, yes. Especially when you get emotional about it, like you claiming it makes you mad.


Typically, when you get emotional about something (definitely not this case), you lose all objectivity. When a good portion of the viewership has swayed toward female, it's not a big leap to think they will try casting a female for that reason. That seems like pandering to me.
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