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September 4, 2017

Is it called England, Britain or the UK?

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EffectAndCause 7 hours ago#1
Are they English or British?
fusespliff 7 hours ago#2
Itachi157 7 hours ago#3
Depends on whether or not they're from England.
You need to be more specific than that.
England: the bits that aren't Wales or Scotland, and possibly also Cornwall
Britain: the island that's England, Wales, Scotland, and Cornwall
UK: Britain and Northern Ireland, plus the Faulklands and some other territories nobody remembers.
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EffectAndCause 7 hours ago#5
Parappa09 7 hours ago#6
england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above
Johnny_Nutcase 7 hours ago#7
Parappa09 posted...
england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above


So Scottish people are really british?
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
So Scottish people are really british?

Actually, yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain
Parappa09 7 hours ago#9
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
So Scottish people are really british?

yeah but they don't like being called british, they prefer scottish >.> @pinky0926 @luigi13579

if anyone asked me where i'm from, I would either say london outright or the UK
Questionmarktarius posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
So Scottish people are really british?

Actually, yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain


And people from Northern Ireland aren't from Ireland? They're from the UK? This is so f***ed up, i'm undoing what I learned here today.
I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson
pinky0926 6 hours ago#11
Parappa09 posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
So Scottish people are really british?

yeah but they don't like being called british, they prefer scottish >.> @pinky0926 @luigi13579

if anyone asked me where i'm from, I would either say london outright or the UK


I don't mind being called British personally because I'm not aggressively scottish in the sort of Glasgwegian way, but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P
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Is Cornwall even really a thing?
Parappa09 6 hours ago#13
pinky0926 posted...
but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P

it's just banter innit
Funkydog  question him ALWAYS6 hours ago#14
Questionmarktarius posted...
Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.
Sonic Cannon 6 hours ago#15
Keep it green.
teepan95 6 hours ago#16
Funkydog posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.

And people from Cornwall are called pasties
luigi13579 6 hours ago#17
People from Northern Ireland are generally called British too, even if they technically aren't. Colloquially, British is used to mean "from the UK", even if, again, that's not strictly true.

And yeah, Ireland is completely separate from the rest of the UK (including NI). That's why Brexit is such a big deal for Ireland and NI. It opens a huge can of worms. See the Good Friday Agreement. Also, for trade, keeping things the same is a terrible deal for Ireland (since basically, you could drive goods from NI to Ireland and ship them to the EU tariff free, despite not being in the EU any more).

Parappa09 posted...
yeah but they don't like being called british, they prefer scottish >.>

I don't really care either way to be honest. I use them both pretty much interchangeably without even thinking about it.

pinky0926 posted...
but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P

Haha, true.
Dash_Harber 6 hours ago#18
England is the country. Britain is the geographical islands (England, Wales, Ireland and Scotland), sometimes called "The British Isles" or "Britannia". The United Kingdom refers to England's government, which controls England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
pinky0926 6 hours ago#19
Parappa09 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P

it's just banter innit


If it's banter then fairgame, but if its someone who's being wilfully ignorant then goddamnit triggered

Btw TC, if all this seems confusing to you that's because it is. Even most people who are from the UK probably couldn't give you an accurate breakdown.
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Funkydog  question him ALWAYS6 hours ago#20
teepan95 posted...
Funkydog posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.

And people from Cornwall are called pasties

And pasties are something you eat.
luigi13579 6 hours ago#21
pinky0926 posted...
If it's banter then fairgame, but if its someone who's being wilfully ignorant then goddamnit triggered

I vaguely remember Eminem at T in the Park shouting "England!" Did that actually happen?
pinky0926 6 hours ago#22
luigi13579 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
If it's banter then fairgame, but if its someone who's being wilfully ignorant then goddamnit triggered

I vaguely remember Eminem at T in the Park shouting "England!" Did that actually happen?


God, did it? How embarrassing.
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EffectAndCause 5 hours ago#23
What do people from England call themselves and where they live?
pinky0926 5 hours ago#24
EffectAndCause posted...
What do people from England call themselves and where they live?


Either English or British, and most of them live in London. The rest live north of London in various cities, hamlets and towns and have strange accents.
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CIA_Agent 5 hours ago#25
Britain is also the name for the island itself that England, Scotland, and Wales are on.

So Northern Ireland is in the UK but not in Britain.
Semper Fi.
spikethedevil 5 hours ago#26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom


Is it so hard to Wiki something?

Northern Ireland is part of the UK while the Republic of Ireland is not.
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Sage JJ 5 hours ago#27
Parappa09 posted...
england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above



Personally this topic has actually been pretty educational but im a little confused. England AND Britain are both considered UK? The UK is comprised of England which itself is part of Britain? 

I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.
Banana_Mana 5 hours ago#28
The UK = The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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CIA_Agent 5 hours ago#29
Sage JJ posted...
I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.


You have been wrong all of these years, my dear child.
Semper Fi.
Banana_Mana 5 hours ago#30
Banana_Mana posted...
The UK = The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland


And...

Britain = England + Wales
Great Britain = England + Wales + Scotland
The British Isles = All Ireland and Great Britain
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CIA_Agent 5 hours ago#31
There's also the remnants of the British Empire like Gibraltar and the UK Virgin Islands.
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Are the Scottish looked upon as the hillbillies of Europe ?
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spikethedevil 5 hours ago#33
Sage JJ posted...
Parappa09 posted...
england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above



Personally this topic has actually been pretty educational but im a little confused. England AND Britain are both considered UK? The UK is comprised of England which itself is part of Britain? 

I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.


@Sage_JJ

Read the Wiki link.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is made up of four countries.

England.
Scotland.
Wales.
Northern Ireland.


No offence meant but this song just kind of fits this topic in general lol

A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod!
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pinky0926 5 hours ago#34
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Are the Scottish looked upon as the hillbillies of Europe ?


No. But Brits (particular English) are know as the worst tourists of Europe. We're the a******s who think culture means sitting on a beach in spain in a football jersey with a pint of carling.

Scots are by and large actually quite cultured and most of them tend to leave Scotland.
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Sage JJ 5 hours ago#35
CIA_Agent posted...
Sage JJ posted...
I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.


You have been wrong all of these years, my dear child.


Its a pretty big misconception than because ive met many people over the years who thought the same
luigi13579 5 hours ago#36
pinky0926 posted...
No. But Brits (particular English) are know as the worst tourists of Europe. We're the a******s who think culture means sitting on a beach in spain in a football jersey with a pint of carling.

Scots are by and large actually quite cultured and most of them tend to leave Scotland.

The British idea of speaking Spanish on holiday is to add an o to the end of certain words lol.
spikethedevil 5 hours ago#37
Sage JJ posted...
CIA_Agent posted...
Sage JJ posted...
I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.


You have been wrong all of these years, my dear child.


Its a pretty big misconception than because ive met many people over the years who thought the same


The ignorant American stereotype is strong in your area then? No offence meant just an observation lol.
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Parappa09 4 hours ago#38
EffectAndCause posted...
What do people from England call themselves and where they live?

i'd call myself british first, londoner second

I avoid calling myself english since it feels like its more for actual white people with english heritageSage JJ posted...
England AND Britain are both considered UK? The UK is comprised of England which itself is part of Britain?

yeah but don't think of britain and UK as two different/opposing things. rather, just two different terms used to describe a similar place

casually, UK is used more in government while britain refers more to the island we're on

pinky0926 posted...
No. But Brits (particular English) are know as the worst tourists of Europe. We're the a******s who think culture means sitting on a beach in spain in a football jersey with a pint of carling.

we are just terrible people all round. I just got back from prague since it was my mates stag do and the british people over there were pure scum

I haven't met many scottish people but the ones I have are absolutely sound. honestly though I do struggle with the accent lol
teepan95 4 hours ago#39
Funkydog posted...
teepan95 posted... 
Funkydog posted... 
Questionmarktarius posted... 
Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.

And people from Cornwall are called pasties

And pasties are something you eat.

Assuming you have access to them ;_;
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EffectAndCause 3 hours ago#40
So when I vacation in Leicester next month, I can say i'm in England and the people around me are English?
CIA_Agent 3 hours ago#41
EffectAndCause posted...
So when I vacation in Leicester next month, I can say i'm in England and the people around me are English?


Yes. You should walk up to every English person you see and proudly announce that even though you are an American, you are willing to forgive them for their past transgressions against our people in the days of the colonies. They will be impressed by your diplomacy.
Semper Fi.
EffectAndCause 3 hours ago#42
I'm hoping to extend the olive branch by at least referring to them and their home by their preferred labels, it's the least we Americans can do after a handful of our farmers defeated their entire army.
spikethedevil 3 hours ago#43
Actually it was your army + help from the French while the French tried to invade us.

A) Ignorant American/10.
B) Read the wiki link.
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EffectAndCause posted...
I'm hoping to extend the olive branch by at least referring to them and their home by their preferred labels, it's the least we Americans can do after a handful of our farmers defeated their entire army.


Lol. I think you need a history lesson.
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EffectAndCause 3 hours ago#45
I think you need a new sarcasm detector.
scar the 1 3 hours ago#46
Remember also Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man, etc.
Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two.
spikethedevil 3 hours ago#47
Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.
A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod!
scar the 1 3 hours ago#48
spikethedevil posted...
Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.

That joke was very easy to detect tbh
Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two.
Feline_Heart 3 hours ago#49
Its pronounced "the ook"
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spikethedevil 3 hours ago#50
scar the 1 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.

That joke was very easy to detect tbh


And many Americans get it wrong so no not so easy to detect.
A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod!
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    teepan95 6 hours ago#51
    scar the 1 posted...
    spikethedevil posted...
    Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.

    That joke was very easy to detect tbh
    scar the 1 6 hours ago#52
    spikethedevil posted...
    scar the 1 posted...
    spikethedevil posted...
    Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.

    That joke was very easy to detect tbh


    And many Americans get it wrong so no not so easy to detect.

    No no, sir, I insist! It was plain as day even for me, and I'm not a native English speaker.
    Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two.
    scar the 1 posted...
    spikethedevil posted...
    scar the 1 posted...
    spikethedevil posted...
    Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.

    That joke was very easy to detect tbh


    And many Americans get it wrong so no not so easy to detect.

    No no, sir, I insist! It was plain as day even for me, and I'm not a native English speaker.


    There are many Americans who genenuinely believe that so it's really not as easy to spot as you're making it sound
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    scar the 1 6 hours ago#54
    YourDrunkFather posted...
    There are many Americans who genenuinely believe that so it's really not as easy to spot as you're making it sound

    It was really easy to spot because of how it was worded, not because it was an improbable belief.
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    KainWind 6 hours ago#55
    scar the 1 5 hours ago#56
    KainWind posted...
    London is the capital of two countries? UK and England?

    Yeah. But England is a subset of the UK, similar to how Delaware has its own capital but is still part of the US.
    Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two.
    Funkydog  question him ALWAYS5 hours ago#57
    teepan95 posted...
    Assuming you have access to them ;_;

    How can you not have access to cornish pasties if you live in Britain?
    KainWind 5 hours ago#58
    scar the 1 posted...
    Yeah. But England is a subset of the UK, similar to how Delaware has its own capital but is still part of the US.

    A country being part of a bigger country is weird to me. I knew England was its own country, but I guess I never put it together.
    Feline_Heart 5 hours ago#59
    KainWind posted...
    scar the 1 posted...
    Yeah. But England is a subset of the UK, similar to how Delaware has its own capital but is still part of the US.

    A country being part of a bigger country is weird to me. I knew England was its own country, but I guess I never put it together.

    You could argue that the United States are the same
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    spikethedevil 5 hours ago#60
    KainWind posted...
    scar the 1 posted...
    Yeah. But England is a subset of the UK, similar to how Delaware has its own capital but is still part of the US.

    A country being part of a bigger country is weird to me. I knew England was its own country, but I guess I never put it together.


    Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own capitals as well.

    Oh and there is no British accent as each country as it's own accents and England has so many accents are untrue. What Americans tend to think of as a ''British'' accent is just a stereotype.
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    KainWind 5 hours ago#61
    spikethedevil 4 hours ago#62
    scar the 1 posted...
    KainWind posted...
    London is the capital of two countries? UK and England?

    Yeah. But England is a subset of the UK, similar to how Delaware has its own capital but is still part of the US.


    England is a country and not a state however.

    Oh and each country has its own flag.
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    scar the 1 4 hours ago#63
    spikethedevil posted...
    scar the 1 posted...
    KainWind posted...
    London is the capital of two countries? UK and England?

    Yeah. But England is a subset of the UK, similar to how Delaware has its own capital but is still part of the US.


    England is a country and not a state however.

    Oh and each country has its own flag.

    Well I said it's similar, not the same. Each state also has its own flag.
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    Ruvan22 4 hours ago#64
    Does the Republic of Ireland have any special standings with the rest of the UK?
    Callixtus 4 hours ago#65
    KainWind posted...
    scar the 1 posted...
    Yeah. But England is a subset of the UK, similar to how Delaware has its own capital but is still part of the US.

    A country being part of a bigger country is weird to me. I knew England was its own country, but I guess I never put it together.

    Its not really a country as that term is commonly used. Generally people think of a country as an independent, sovereign entity and none of the constituent countries of the UK are that.
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    scar the 1 4 hours ago#66
    Ruvan22 posted...
    Does the Republic of Ireland have any special standings with the rest of the UK?

    The Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK at all. The UK is a Kingdom, Republic of Ireland is a Republic. It's all very complicated and quite well explained in the link posted in the very beginning of this topic.
    Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two.
    spikethedevil 4 hours ago#67
    Ruvan22 posted...
    Does the Republic of Ireland have any special standings with the rest of the UK?


    No as it's not part of the UK hence the Republic bit at the start. Irelands history is something else that people should wiki.
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    teepan95 3 hours ago#68
    Funkydog posted...
    teepan95 posted...
    Assuming you have access to them ;_;

    How can you not have access to cornish pasties if you live in Britain?

    Cos I don't live in Britain anymore :/
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