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September 2, 2017

Mayor Luigi: Anyone shouting 'Allahu akbar' in Venice will be shot

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Luigi Brugnaro claims the Italian tourist hotspot is safer than Barcelona - where 14 people died being run down by a terrorist - saying that 'in contrast, we keep our guard up'

Venice's independent mayor has ordered cops to shoot ANYONE who shouts 'Allahu Akbar' - rather than risk a terror attack .

“In contrast with Barcelona, where they had not set up protection, we keep our guard up,” Burgnaro said. “If anyone runs into St Mark’s Square shouting ‘Allahu Akhbar’, we will take him down. A year ago I said after four steps, now after three. I will say it in Venetian: ‘Ghe Sparemo’ (We will shoot him).”

“In Venice, we arrested four terrorists who wanted to blow up the Rialto bridge, saying they wanted to go to Allah. But we’ll send them straight to Allah before they can do any damage,” Brugnaro said.

Mayor Dario Nardella of Florence mocked Brugnaro immediately after the speech and ran up to him shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’ while Gnassi took to Facebook to suggest that he could not understand Brugnaro’s remarks because of his Venetian dialect.

“I have never been politically correct, I am incorrect,” Bruganaro responded. “I would shoot, we would shoot … if you want to kill me, maybe I will defend myself.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/venice-mayor-allahu-akbar-shot-luigi-brugnaro-barcelona-attack-st-marks-square-muslims-italy-city-a7910081.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/well-send-straight-god-venice-11043606

European leaders could learn a lot from this guy.
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andel 2 days ago#3
that is just weird
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TundraKing87 2 days ago#4
How to turn ordinary people into zealots and terrorists by constantly alienating them and painting them all as villains giving those wishing to exploit that anger major gains?
Brugnaro has attracted controversy via his banning of forty nine books about discrimination and or homosexuality from the city's schools, including a French Book on gay parenting entitled "Jean Has Two Mums", and in declaring that there will be no gay pride parade in Venice.

European leaders could learn a lot from this guy.

No.
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Nicodaemos 2 days ago#6
McDonaldTrumpX posted...
Mayor Dario Nardella of Florence mocked Brugnaro immediately after the speech and ran up to him shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’ while Gnassi took to Facebook to suggest that he could not understand Brugnaro’s remarks because of his Venetian dialect.


lol
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Musa- 2 days ago#7
What if he sets up speakers and Allahu Akbar is blasting through those instead
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Nicodaemos posted...
McDonaldTrumpX posted...
Mayor Dario Nardella of Florence mocked Brugnaro immediately after the speech and ran up to him shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’ while Gnassi took to Facebook to suggest that he could not understand Brugnaro’s remarks because of his Venetian dialect.


lol

We need more Darios and less Luigis.
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TorchOfLiberty posted...
CherryTsundere posted...
Brugnaro has attracted controversy via his banning of forty nine books about discrimination and or homosexuality from the city's schools, including a French Book on gay parenting entitled "Jean Has Two Mums", and in declaring that there will be no gay pride parade in Venice.

European leaders could learn a lot from this guy.

No.

Oh no muh marxist pride parade!

Back to Stormfront with you Eelfoot.

Wait...

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We could all learn a lot though. God is great after all. If I hear ANYONE shouting God bless America I will reach for my gun. You never know what those sneaky English speaking terrorists might be trying to pull. Murica! Freedom!
TorchOfLiberty posted...
CherryTsundere posted...
Brugnaro has attracted controversy via his banning of forty nine books about discrimination and or homosexuality from the city's schools, including a French Book on gay parenting entitled "Jean Has Two Mums", and in declaring that there will be no gay pride parade in Venice.

European leaders could learn a lot from this guy.

No.

Oh no muh marxist pride parade!

"Look at me pretending to support free speech "
Jaghave 2 days ago#13
It can be consider worse then falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater

But honestly I don't know where to fall on this topic
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Cynyn 1 day ago#15
And people wonder why it took so long for Luigi to get his own game as Mario got the leading role time and again.
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masher11 1 day ago#17
its sad its come to this, but hands are tied.

protecting innocents should be of utmost.
TonyKojima 1 day ago#18
Funny because right wing christians are faaaar more dangerous and our most immediate threat according to, well every singke government agency.
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What if someone who doesn't know this stupid rule wants to say it for any non-violent reason?
Jaghave posted...
It can be consider worse then falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater


Lol, no.

"God is great" does not threaten imminent lawless action.
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This is roughly the equivalent of ordering the police to shoot anyone who says "amen".
Prototypic 1 day ago#22
McDonaldTrumpX posted...
Mayor Dario Nardella of Florence mocked Brugnaro immediately after the speech and ran up to him shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’

My new favorite mayor.
Thus I became a madman.
omega bahumat posted...
TorchOfLiberty posted...
CherryTsundere posted...
Brugnaro has attracted controversy via his banning of forty nine books about discrimination and or homosexuality from the city's schools, including a French Book on gay parenting entitled "Jean Has Two Mums", and in declaring that there will be no gay pride parade in Venice.

European leaders could learn a lot from this guy.

No.

Oh no muh marxist pride parade!

"Look at me pretending to support free speech "


Came in here for this. @torchofliberty has always been a hypocrite on this
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McDonaldTrumpX posted...
Luigi Brugnaro claims the Italian tourist hotspot is safer than Barcelona - where 14 people died being run down by a terrorist - saying that 'in contrast, we keep our guard up'

Venice's independent mayor has ordered cops to shoot ANYONE who shouts 'Allahu Akbar' - rather than risk a terror attack .

“In contrast with Barcelona, where they had not set up protection, we keep our guard up,” Burgnaro said. “If anyone runs into St Mark’s Square shouting ‘Allahu Akhbar’, we will take him down. A year ago I said after four steps, now after three. I will say it in Venetian: ‘Ghe Sparemo’ (We will shoot him).”

“In Venice, we arrested four terrorists who wanted to blow up the Rialto bridge, saying they wanted to go to Allah. But we’ll send them straight to Allah before they can do any damage,” Brugnaro said.

Mayor Dario Nardella of Florence mocked Brugnaro immediately after the speech and ran up to him shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’ while Gnassi took to Facebook to suggest that he could not understand Brugnaro’s remarks because of his Venetian dialect.

“I have never been politically correct, I am incorrect,” Bruganaro responded. “I would shoot, we would shoot … if you want to kill me, maybe I will defend myself.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/venice-mayor-allahu-akbar-shot-luigi-brugnaro-barcelona-attack-st-marks-square-muslims-italy-city-a7910081.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/well-send-straight-god-venice-11043606

European leaders could learn a lot from this guy.

ah yes, wonder what will happen when a 12 year old yells that? Or pranksters?
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TaiIs82 1 day ago#25
Are those comments all right for the commoners to make on this board? Because I was gonna say...some terrorist comes running up with a knife screaming "Allahu-" and he gets his brains blown out before he can finish the thought, I'm not gonna lose any sleep.
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Iain121 1 day ago#26
TundraKing87 posted...
How to turn ordinary people into zealots and terrorists by constantly alienating them and painting them all as villains giving those wishing to exploit that anger major gains?


They're not ordinary people if the slightest insult against their religion turns them into terrorists.
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mninp 1 day ago#27
TundraKing87 posted...
How to turn ordinary people into zealots and terrorists by constantly alienating them and painting them all as villains giving those wishing to exploit that anger major gains?

Nobody is alienating them dude. If they are good people to begin with they agree with him, which means it has the opposite effect and they feel even more safe. Good people don't start committing acts of terrorism because somebody said something. You're acting like these are people right on the middle between good and evil and one little push will cause them to become terrorists. And we're the ones apparently "alienating" them? (again whatever that means). All you're doing is assuming, which is ridiculous. Good people don't just "decide" to become terrorists. If someone painted you as a villain (which they aren't painting these ordinary people as villains), would you be like "hey maybe you're right, I'm gonna go blow up a building"? How stupid does that sound? Use your head.

Also lol "Mayor Luigi" it just sounds funny as hell
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Red XlV 1 day ago#28
McDonaldTrumpX posted...
European leaders could learn a lot from this guy.

Sure, they could look at him and learn "how to be a bigoted s***bag." Or how not to be one, by just doing the opposite of what this buffoon of a mayor does.
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action52 1 day ago#29
I swear to god, it seems like bigots must think Muslims are magical beings like vampires or something. So how is this supposed to protect anybody? What, this guy thinks that somehow terrorists will be unable to carry out their attacks if they don't say "Allahu Akbar"? I bet he also thinks Muslims will hiss and howl in pain if they touch bacon.
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mninp 1 day ago#30
action52 posted...
I swear to god, it seems like bigots must think Muslims are magical beings like vampires or something. So how is this supposed to protect anybody? What, this guy thinks that somehow terrorists will be unable to carry out their attacks if they don't say "Allahu Akbar"? I bet he also thinks Muslims will hiss and howl in pain if they touch bacon.

He's doing the best he can to try to stop terrorism. Why is this an issue for you? Do you not agree that terrorism is bad? Stop making it about "Muslims". You guys are the only ones making it about Muslims. We all know that ISIS is a religion based organization, we all know they love to shout Alluh Ahkbar before they do something crazy. If you want to work together to get rid of the bad guys, then stop making everything about race and throwing the word "bigot" around when it's not even close to accurate and let the man do his job to protect his country. If anything, the fact that you KNOW they're trying their best to stop terrorism should be more than enough for you. Like, they're clearly trying to do the right thing to save people's lives from terrorists, and you have a problem with this.

Damn dude...
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TundraKing87 posted...
How to turn ordinary people into zealots and terrorists by constantly alienating them and painting them all as villains giving those wishing to exploit that anger major gains?

"Don't make them mad or they'll become genocidal maniacs!" And you see nothing wrong with this, even going so far as to defend them. Take a long, hard look at yourself.
action52 1 day ago#32
mninp posted...
action52 posted...
I swear to god, it seems like bigots must think Muslims are magical beings like vampires or something. So how is this supposed to protect anybody? What, this guy thinks that somehow terrorists will be unable to carry out their attacks if they don't say "Allahu Akbar"? I bet he also thinks Muslims will hiss and howl in pain if they touch bacon.

He's doing the best he can to try to stop terrorism. Why is this an issue for you? Do you not agree that terrorism is bad? Stop making it about "Muslims". You guys are the only ones making it about Muslims. We all know that ISIS is a religion based organization, we all know they love to shout Alluh Ahkbar before they do something crazy. If you want to work together to get rid of the bad guys, then stop making everything about race and throwing the word "bigot" around when it's not even close to accurate and let the man do his job to protect his country. If anything, the fact that you KNOW they're trying their best to stop terrorism should be more than enough for you. Like, they're clearly trying to do the right thing to save people's lives from terrorists, and you have a problem with this.

Damn dude...

Oh come on, every mayor of every city is trying to stop terrorism. But saying "we will shoot anyone who days allahu akbar is not helping anything. The expression has nothing to do with terrorism. You say don't make it about Muslims but this guy is making it about Muslims.
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Xtopher85 1 day ago#33
Skimming through topics I totally misread the first two words as "Mario Luigi"... then things got dark.
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JE19426 1 day ago#34
Iain121 posted...
They're not ordinary people if the slightest insult against their religion turns them into terrorists.


Threatening to kill anyone using a common religous phrase, isn't a "slight insult" at all nevermind "the slightest".
mrplainswalker posted...
"God is great" does not threaten imminent lawless action.


In Europe, YES IT f***ING DOES.
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JE19426 1 day ago#36
Stonedwolfed posted...
In Europe, YES IT f***ING DOES.


No, it doesn't. It's a normal part of prayer for millions of people in europe.
Musa- 1 day ago#37
Stonedwolfed posted...
mrplainswalker posted...
"God is great" does not threaten imminent lawless action.


In Europe, YES IT f***ING DOES.

Atheists cannot be taken seriously on matters of God.

God is great. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, la ila ha illal la
Musa- posted...
Atheists cannot be taken seriously on matters of God.


And even less so theists.

But this is not a matter of god, this is a matter of human terrorism.
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Musa- posted...
Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, la ila ha illal la


Haha, you want to see something funny? Try that s*** at the airport.
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Musa- 1 day ago#40
Stonedwolfed posted...
Musa- posted...
Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, la ila ha illal la


Haha, you want to see something funny? Try that s*** at the airport.

I have prayed my prayers at the JFK airport. Not everyone is a bigot like you
fudrick 1 day ago#41
Any of you hate speech law proponents starting to see why that nonsense is likely to backfire on you?
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fudrick 1 day ago#42
Thanatos the Great posted...
This is roughly the equivalent of ordering the police to shoot anyone who says "amen".


Is there a well established, common global phenomenon of people saying "amen" before committing mass murder?
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Musa- posted...
Stonedwolfed posted...
Musa- posted...
Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, la ila ha illal la


Haha, you want to see something funny? Try that s*** at the airport.

I have prayed my prayers at the JFK airport. Not everyone is a bigot like you


But have you gone into the middle of the airport and screamed Allahu Akbar randomly?

Because that's what the Mayor of Venice is talking about - not a prayer room.
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Starks 1 day ago#44
It's basically saying "oh my god". It's not some terrorist declaration.

Have you even watched a single video of violence in Syria?

Victims are constantly shouting allahu akbar because they can't believe that their friends are dead or their house is gone.
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Musa- 1 day ago#45
Fudrick are you a neo Nazi white supremacist? I have been meaning to ask you this for awhile
Sir Will 1 day ago#46
masher11 posted...
its sad its come to this, but hands are tied.

protecting innocents should be of utmost.

No.
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Starks posted...
It's basically saying "oh my god". I


When several thousand people are killed by terrorist who scream "oh my god" first then "oh my god" gets a different connotation attached to it.
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Jaghave 1 day ago#48
Starks posted...
It's basically saying "oh my god". It's not some terrorist declaration.

Have you even watched a single video of violence in Syria?

Victims are constantly shouting allahu akbar because they can't believe that their friends are dead or their house is gone.


It God is Great
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Stonedwolfed posted...
several thousand people are killed by terrorist who scream "oh my god" first

[citation needed]
So what if Terrorists start yelling Ar Rahman instead? Or any of the other 99 names for Allah?
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    Not defending terrorists. Simply highlighting how folks feeling attacked, isolated or alienated can be exploited by sociopaths from gangs, cartels, warlords, terrorists, cults, etc.

    Terrorists are human garbage. Seeing how terrorists grow their numbers isn't defending them...it is seeing how they do it so we can try and curb it.
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Starks posted...
    It's basically saying "oh my god". I


    When several thousand people are killed by terrorist who scream "oh my god" first then "oh my god" gets a different connotation attached to it.

    Lol.

    Watching this play out is hilarious. You oafs were constantly whining about us wanting to remove the statues because of what they mean. And now you want to kill people for speaking a phrase.

    Wow
    Thanatos the Great posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    several thousand people are killed by terrorist who scream "oh my god" first

    [citation needed]


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir#Jihadist_usage
    Understanding the rationality of SJWs is like trying to smell the colour 9.
    Locating the humanity of neo-Nazis is like finding the Unicorns' Graveyard.
    Hell, some folks here argue neo Nazis and clansmen are popping up because of the SJW left, so even far right types see a connection between perceived feelings of hatred or victimhood leading to fringe groups (some dangerous) seeking to exploit people feeling a certain way.
    Also, if a person shouts "God is the greatest!" In English do we still shoot them?

    Why wait for "...the greatest"

    Just shoot anyone who says God. Gotta be safe.
    TundraKing87 posted...
    Also, if a person shouts "God is the greatest!" In English do we still shoot them?


    Yes, but only if or when there comes a point where that phrase, in English, is a frequent and well-documented precursor to many terrorist atrocities.
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    Stonedwolfed posted...
    TundraKing87 posted...
    Also, if a person shouts "God is the greatest!" In English do we still shoot them?


    Yes, but only if or when there comes a point where that phrase, in English, is a frequent and well-documented precursor to many terrorist atrocities.

    What if they yell Dio รจ grande?????

    It could be a Jojo reference!

    You can't kill someone for making a motherf***ing Jojo reference!

    I will not stand for this!
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    Am I supposed to know what a Jojo reference is?
    Understanding the rationality of SJWs is like trying to smell the colour 9.
    Locating the humanity of neo-Nazis is like finding the Unicorns' Graveyard.
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Am I supposed to know what a Jojo reference is?

    Leave.
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    Terrorists say the same phrase my dad's Iranian coworker said during his prayers. A phrase said by a billion people every single day with no ties to terrorism or desire to harm others. It is literally just saying God is the greatest. Something evangelical Christians LOVE to say every single day.

    Also, when a Muslim terrorist plows into a crowd of people in a truck, how quick can folks react to hearing Allahu akbar (if at all)
    ITT Islamic terrorists don't frequently shout ALLAHU AKBAR before detonating themselves.
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    ImperialDragon posted...
    ITT Islamic terrorists don't frequently shout ALLAHU AKBAR before detonating themselves.

    itp: millions of non violent Muslims the world over don't frequently say allahu akbar
    omega bahumat posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Starks posted...
    It's basically saying "oh my god". I


    When several thousand people are killed by terrorist who scream "oh my god" first then "oh my god" gets a different connotation attached to it.

    Lol.

    Watching this play out is hilarious. You oafs were constantly whining about us wanting to remove the statues because of what they mean. And now you want to kill people for speaking a phrase.

    Wow

    Again. Laughing.
    ITT a billion people say it every single day and it has nothing to do with a terror attack.
    JE19426 1 day ago#65
    ImperialDragon posted...
    ITT Islamic terrorists don't frequently shout ALLAHU AKBAR before detonating themselves.


    ITP we should kill people saying daily prayer because some people use parts the prayers in attacks.
    Tmk 1 day ago#66
    Mayor Luigi was later quoted saying, "Mmhm! Fine day for mayoring!" and then someone shouted "Allahu Akbar" to which he replied, "Death approaches! Better scamper!"
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    fftstudent 1 day ago#67
    Let's be honest for a moment.

    You are out at the mall shopping. When all of a sudden you hear someone scream,"Allahu Ackbar."

    How would you personally respond?

    Would you s*** your pants and run? Would you be like, ok?...and carry on with your business?

    Their are certain....expectations when someone utters that phrase. What follows after tends to be, rather unwholesome.
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    JE19426 1 day ago#68
    fftstudent posted...
    Let's be honest for a moment.

    You are out at the mall shopping. When all of a sudden you hear someone scream,"Allahu Ackbar."

    How would you personally respond? 


    I'd ignore them.
    What if the guy was on a prayer rug and praising his god while on his lunch break from Old Navy?
    Tmk 1 day ago#70
    fftstudent posted...
    You are out at the mall shopping. When all of a sudden you hear someone scream,"Allahu Ackbar."

    How would you personally respond?

    Tackle them with catlike reflexes and then impale them with an American flagpole, letting Old Glory fly in their corpse while discharging various fireworks I had hid in my pockets while I salute up towards God.
    I am snazzier, hot, hot rant. Warily slight as.
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    If a terrorist has a bomb vest, whether he says it or not, it's unlikely a cop gets the chance to shoot him before he detonates it.

    Allahu Akbar. Takes less than a second to say. A cop would need to take the gun, aim and hit the guy or gal with expert precision.

    ...and since terrorists do suicide bombings in busy, loud, crowded areas good luck with that.

    This is a BS **** waving plan to get dunces to support you. It doesn't actually curb terror attacks or make folks safe. So of course folks here love it.
    TundraKing87 posted...
    If a terrorist has a bomb vest, whether he says it or not, it's unlikely a cop gets the chance to shoot him before he detonates it.

    Allahu Akbar. Takes less than a second to say. A cop would need to take the gun, aim and hit the guy or gal with expert precision.

    ...and since terrorists do suicide bombings in busy, loud, crowded areas good luck with that.

    This is a BS **** waving plan to get dunces to support you. It doesn't actually curb terror attacks or make folks safe. So of course folks here love it.

    It's bascially virtue signalling then, if you think about it.
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    Musa- 1 day ago#73
    This is a bad precedent to slowly creep up on Muslim habits. They'll eventually extend this restriction to any type of Arabic being spoken or some s***
    JE19426 posted...
    fftstudent posted...
    Let's be honest for a moment.

    You are out at the mall shopping. When all of a sudden you hear someone scream,"Allahu Ackbar."

    How would you personally respond? 


    I'd ignore them.


    Where in the world do you live, BTW?
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    JE19426 1 day ago#75
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Where in the world do you live, BTW?


    Why?
    JE19426 posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Where in the world do you live, BTW?


    Why?


    I'm just interested in learning how many Islamist attacks there have been where or near where you live in the last decade.
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    Musa- 1 day ago#77
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    JE19426 posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Where in the world do you live, BTW?


    Why?


    I'm just interested in learning how many Islamist attacks there have been where or near where you live in the last decade.

    Where do you live?
    Nicodaemos 1 day ago#78
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    JE19426 posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Where in the world do you live, BTW?


    Why?


    I'm just interested in learning how many Islamist attacks there have been where or near where you live in the last decade.


    How many Islamist attacks have occurred in Italy?
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    masher11 1 day ago#79
    Nicodaemos posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    JE19426 posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Where in the world do you live, BTW?


    Why?


    I'm just interested in learning how many Islamist attacks there have been where or near where you live in the last decade.


    How many Islamist attacks have occurred in Italy?


    that homegrown Italian attacked Britain? or maybe it was Germany.
    ImperialDragon 22 hours ago#80
    There exists a slight difference between simply using the phrase in your daily prayer routine or whatever and SHOUTING IT AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS IN A CROWDED MALL or whatever. One of these is indicative of bad s***, the other isn't.
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    JE19426 22 hours ago#81
    ImperialDragon posted...
    There exists a slight difference between simply using the phrase in your daily prayer routine or whatever and SHOUTING IT AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS IN A CROWDED MALL or whatever. One of these is indicative of bad s***, the other isn't.


    And did the Mayor say "anyone who shouts it at the top of their lungs in a crowded mall will be shot"? No he said "anyone who shouts it will be shot", shouting "Allahu Akbar" is part of the Muslim call the prayer which is performed five times a day.
    Musa- 22 hours ago#82
    ImperialDragon posted...
    There exists a slight difference between simply using the phrase in your daily prayer routine or whatever and SHOUTING IT AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS IN A CROWDED MALL or whatever. One of these is indicative of bad s***, the other isn't.

    Yes but how loud is loud? These expressions are integrated into daily use in the Arabic and south Asian languages. If you're going by a clothes shop in a mall and you spot something nice, you might say "mashaAllah" or "subanAllah", and that's perfectly common.

    So how loud is too loud where you start pointing guns at these phrases?
    Stonedwolfed 21 hours ago#83
    Musa- posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    JE19426 posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Where in the world do you live, BTW?


    Why?


    I'm just interested in learning how many Islamist attacks there have been where or near where you live in the last decade.

    Where do you live?


    The UK.
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    CherryTsundere 20 hours ago#84
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Musa- posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    JE19426 posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Where in the world do you live, BTW?


    Why?


    I'm just interested in learning how many Islamist attacks there have been where or near where you live in the last decade.

    Where do you live?


    The UK.

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    Koji9999 20 hours ago#85
    Iain121 posted...
    TundraKing87 posted...
    How to turn ordinary people into zealots and terrorists by constantly alienating them and painting them all as villains giving those wishing to exploit that anger major gains?


    They're not ordinary people if the slightest insult against their religion turns them into terrorists.



    It's kind of ironic though, since this is literally a common argument from people on the right when confronted with consequence to their actions. "b-b-but reducing their alt-right platforms, punishing them for being racist, etc.? you're just going to alienate them and push them toward being neo-nazis, white supremacist, violence, etc.!! muy freeze peach!1!!!1"
    Musa- 20 hours ago#86
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    The UK.

    I bet I drink more tea than you
    Stonedwolfed 16 hours ago#87
    Musa- posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    The UK.

    I bet I drink more tea than you


    I drink coffee, whisky, and milk of the poppy. And not in that order.
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    mrplainswalker 14 hours ago#88
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    In Europe, YES IT f***ING DOES.


    Just because terrorists have said that, it doesn't mean that everyone who says it is threatening to murder people, any more than having a mustache means that you're going to start a holocaust because Hitler also had a mustache.

    And this is coming from an atheist who thinks that the whole notion of God is silly in the first place.
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    Stonedwolfed 6 hours ago#89
    mrplainswalker posted...
    Just because terrorists have said that, it doesn't mean that everyone who says it is threatening to murder people,


    People saying it as a prayer in a Mosque or rug-room, no problem.

    People shouting it at non-Muslims in public places are either terrorists or intentionally inciting fears of an imminent terrorist attack.

    Similar but related. It's not illegal to eat bacon in Sweden. But a man was just prosecuted in Sweden for eating bacon in front of Muslims, and when they moved on the bus changed seat so he was again in their view and continued to ostentatiously eat bacon. His motivation was not eating bacon - his motivation was causing upset.

    Similarly a Muslims screaming ALLAHU AKBAR in a public crowd of mainly non-Muslims is not engaging in an honest act of faith - his motivation is causing upset.

    And since the form of upset he is intentionally causing is strongly correlated to an imminent explosion if he gets physically f***ed-up - be it police or civilian - he has only himself to blame for intentionally inciting that.
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    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Stuff


    Yes, they're intentionally causing a public disturbance. I'd be ok with giving them a citation for that. But shooting them outright?
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    Stonedwolfed 3 hours ago#91
    mrplainswalker posted...
    causing a public disturbance. I'd be ok with giving them a citation for that


    That disturbance is not one of mere offence but of intentionally inciting a fear of an imminent attack.

    It's the equivalent of "I have a gun and I'm going to shoot you" and if you get shot at that point that's your own f***ing fault.
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    Stonedwolfed posted...
    It's the equivalent of "I have a gun and I'm going to shoot you"


    No, it's not. That's a direct threat. This is just implied aggressiveness. It's basically the same as some Christian shouting that everyone is going to hell.
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    Stonedwolfed 2 hours ago#93
    mrplainswalker posted...
    That's a direct threat.


    Given the context of Allahu Akbar being screamed before terrorist outrages, it's a direct threat too.


    It's basically the same as some Christian shouting that everyone is going to hell.


    Only if and when people screaming "you're going to hell" is followed by multiple terrorist atrocities.
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    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Given the context of Allahu Akbar being screamed before terrorist outrages, it's a direct threat too.


    Most people who shout that aren't killing anyone. So no.
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    Stonedwolfed 2 hours ago#95
    mrplainswalker posted...
    Most people who shout that aren't killing anyone. So no.


    Citation that "most" Muslims who shout Allahu Akbar at crowds of non-Muslim have no terrorist intent?
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    Musa- 2 hours ago#96
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    mrplainswalker posted...
    Most people who shout that aren't killing anyone. So no.


    Citation that "most" Muslims who shout Allahu Akbar at crowds of non-Muslim have no terrorist intent?

    What if you're doing the Athan?
    Stonedwolfed 2 hours ago#97
    Musa- posted...
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    mrplainswalker posted...
    Most people who shout that aren't killing anyone. So no.


    Citation that "most" Muslims who shout Allahu Akbar at crowds of non-Muslim have no terrorist intent?

    What if you're doing the Athan?


    Is that related to the Adhan?

    The Adhan is traditionally issued from a minaret at a Mosque... not screamed by a loner Muslim at non-Muslims in non-Muslim settings.

    Again, the Swedish bacon case - context is king.
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    Musa- 14 minutes ago#98
    Stonedwolfed posted...
    Is that related to the Adhan?

    The Adhan is traditionally issued from a minaret at a Mosque... not screamed by a loner Muslim at non-Muslims in non-Muslim settings.

    Again, the Swedish bacon case - context is king.

    If you're say, a party pf 4-5 muslims and you want to do your prayer in a group they usually have someone do the Athan. And yes, it is in a loud voice since the purpose of the Athan is for everyone to hear since it's a call to prayer. The minaret thing is only in places of established mosques. People, myself included, do the Athan while travelling too. It is certainly a common thing. I have done it on my university campus as well where a group of us prayed on the grass
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    wally 5 minutes ago#99
    Why the f*** is anyone supporting a mayor pledging to literally murder anybody who uses a certain phrase in public?
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