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October 6, 2018

Noobs and Casualism

In recent years there has been a dramatic and unprecedented shift in Veteran and and Noob relations. Throughout the nearly half decade of Veteran decline, Noobs have tended to characterize Elitism as a failed ideology or at best a ideology that prepared the way for, and is completed in, Casualism. In the years since Fatesawakening, however, Casualism has changed dramatically. An increasing number of official Casualism bodies, both 4Chan and Reddit, have made public statements of their remorse about Noobs mistreatment of Veterans and Elitism. These statements have declared, furthermore, that Casualism teaching and preaching can and must be reformed so that they acknowledge I$’s former works with the Veterans and celebrate the contribution of Elitism to the fanbase and to Fire Emblem itself. We believe these changes merit a thoughtful Veteran response. Speaking only for ourselves - an humble gathering of Veteran scribes - we believe it is time for Veterans to learn about the efforts of Noobs to honor Elitism. We believe it is time for Veterans to reflect on what Elitism may now say about Casualism. As a first step, we offer five brief statements about how Veterans and Noobs May relate to one another.

Veterans and Noobs like the same Franchise

Before the rise of Casualism, Veterans were the only players of Fire Emblem. But Noobs also play Fire Emblem. While Noobs play style is not a viable choice for Veterans, as Veteran fans we rejoice that, through Casualism, hundreds of millions of people have entered into the Fire Emblem fanbase.

Noobs can respect the claim of the Veterans upon the Franchise of Fire Emblem.
The most important event for Veterans since the rise of Fatesawakening has been the reestablishment of a Veteran state in FEH. As players of a Japanese originated franchise, Noobs appreciate that FEH was promised and given to Veterans as the virtual center of the old games between them and I$. Many Noobs support the state of FEH for reasons far more profound than mere nostalgia. As Veterans, we applaud this support. We also recognize that Veteran tradition mandates enjoyment for all non-Veterans who play FEH.

Trolling was not a Noob phenomenon.

Without the long history of Noob anti-Elitism and noob aggression against Veterans, Troll ideology could not have taken hold nor could it have been carried out. Too many Noobs participated in, or were sympathetic to, Troll atrocities against Veterans. Other Noobs did not protest sufficiently against these atrocities. But trolling itself was not an inevitable outcome of Casualism. If the troll attacks upon the Veterans had been fully successful, it would have turned its toxic rage more directly to Noobs. We recognize with gratitude those Noobs who risked or sacrificed their own sanity to save Veterans during the Troll attacks. With that in mind, we encourage the continuation of recent efforts in Noob ideology to repudiate unequivocally contempt of Elitism and the Veterans. We applaud those Noobs who reject those filthy casuals, and do not blame them for the mistakes of the past.

The humanly irreconcilable difference between Veterans and Noobs will not be settled until I$ redeems the entire Franchise. 

Noobs play fire emblem simple and easy through the tradition of Casualism. Veterans play fire emblem slow and steady. The difference will not be settled by one community insisting that it has interpreted the right method to play more accurately than the other. Neither Veteran nor Noob should be pressed into affirming the play style of the other community.

Veterans and Noobs must work together for justice and peace.

Veterans and Noobs, each in their own way, recognize the unredeemed state of the fanbase as reflected in the persistence of persecution, trolling, and human degradation, and misery. Although the destiny of the franchise is in I$’s hands, we must coexist

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September 13, 2018

Millennial spends $4,000 while in school in FEH, has to pay, wants a refund now

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  3. Millennial spends $4,000 while in school in FEH, has to pay, wants a refund now
StillPainting 3 weeks ago#1
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/98w9hc/dont_be_stupid_like_me/

started playing this game near launch, and at the time, I really enjoyed it, to the point where I convinced myself it was fine to spend a little bit of money during the first Voting Gauntlet to get Lucina. Eventually, I kept telling myself that this would the last time I pay (which obviously wasn't), and this just continued to spiral downwards. I think the reason for this might be because I used FEH as a coping mechanism to deal with school and stress.

Now, I'm 4k in the shit and I can't even pay for my upcoming semester's tuition. With no way of properly paying my tuition, I've reached out to Nintendo last night, asking them for a refund and to delete my account, but obviously they refused (because why would they).

EDIT: I don't even want to play this game anymore and every time I see it on my phone it just depresses me. The only reason I haven't deleted it off of my phone as well as my account data is because I hope that Nintendo will give me a refund and delete my account.


WHAA I'M IN THE SUPERMARKET I WANT THE CANDY BAR WHAAA YAY THANK YOU MOMMY I GET WHAT I WANT
HOW CREDIT CARD WORKS, I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT
MONEY GROWS ON TREES LIKE ANIMAL CROSSING LOL!
WTF I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY MY DUES?

You can replace this game with anything. Gaming subscription to online services/an MMO, car payments, what have you. Dude just doesn't get it, even after he typed it out and posted an edit; he still thinks his sob story is enough to warrant a refund. Good lord, kids these days. Entitlement is so crazy. He's likely living in a 1st world country safe from civil wars and viral diseases, living in a safe college environment with a roof under his head, with an advance smartphone to play a popular game; so obviously someone pointed a gun at his head to spend money and more and more. Now he wants his money back and he believes....there's a chance they'll kill the account and give it back to him.

You take the big loss, plan out the payments, and stop trying to be a child about getting the money back. That's not how the real world operates. Straight up entitlement, I blame the parents the most.
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mysteriouslurke 3 weeks ago#2
That's very bad Nintendo. Poor kid just wants to get college girls!
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SirRobX 3 weeks ago#3
Tell it to that person, not us
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BipBapBam 3 weeks ago#4
SirRobX posted...
Tell it to that person, not us

Probably got downvoted to hell by the hive mind.
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StillPainting 3 weeks ago#5
SirRobX posted...
Tell it to that person, not us


I realized my folly, I shouldn't have made the topic here if I was gonna post it like that. Reddit is a safe space excusing his poor behavior, though.

BipBapBam posted...
SirRobX posted...
Tell it to that person, not us

Probably got downvoted to hell by the hive mind.


Yep.
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catchthemouser 3 weeks ago#6
Poor guy. I have to cover my college fees out of my pocket, which means I can't really afford to spend money on something like this.

I always make sure to have my finances in order before I spend for leisure and FEH is the last thing I'd dump money in. How can he be so irrational?

I hope everything works out for him.
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CrescentShadow 3 weeks ago#7
lmao sucks to be them

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Street_Overlord 3 weeks ago#8
I thought this was some 5th grader at lunch, not a college student.

Idiot should have been educated enough to realize what he was doing.
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mirkk 3 weeks ago#9
but did he get them all?
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Wanderer2691 3 weeks ago#10
CrescentShadow posted...
lmao sucks to be them

This. Normally I'm all for sticking up for the little guy economically, but there's a fine line between unfortunate circumstances and fucking stupidity.
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Prost 3 weeks ago#11
Wth those guys actually upvoting that shit post? Lol
Blarg143 3 weeks ago#12
Street_Overlord posted...
I thought this was some 5th grader at lunch, not a college student.

Idiot should have been educated enough to realize what he was doing.

it's almost as if he has an addiction! 

it's his fault for sure, but gachas are incredibly predatory. just like any casino that has ever existed.
HayashiTakara 3 weeks ago#13
Prost posted...
Wth those guys actually upvoting that shit post? Lol


that's because FEH subreddit is a bunch of teenagers, the mods are literally 16 yr olds (not a joke) for example.
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RicewarriorZ 3 weeks ago#14
Well hopefully this guy learned some self control now, which imo is more valuable than what a semester of college can teach you.
CrescentShadow 3 weeks ago#15
Blarg143 posted...
Street_Overlord posted...
I thought this was some 5th grader at lunch, not a college student.

Idiot should have been educated enough to realize what he was doing.

it's almost as if he has an addiction! 

it's his fault for sure, but gachas are incredibly predatory. just like any casino that has ever existed.

I mean, I'm addicted to pulling in gachas for sure, I can't save orbs in FEH or crystals/free pull tickets in Granblue to save my life

I don't spend thousands of dollars I don't have on either though
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AlveinFencer 3 weeks ago#16
Or maybe because the post is framed like a cautionary tale, they want others to see it.

...Nah, couldn't be.
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Blarg143 3 weeks ago#17
CrescentShadow posted...
Blarg143 posted...
Street_Overlord posted...
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it's almost as if he has an addiction! 

it's his fault for sure, but gachas are incredibly predatory. just like any casino that has ever existed.

I mean, I'm addicted to pulling in gachas for sure, I can't save orbs in FEH or crystals/free pull tickets in Granblue to save my life

I don't spend thousands of dollars I don't have on either though

because you don't have a problem. gambling addiction is an actual thing.

much the same way you don't tell a depressed person "just be happy," you can't tell a person with a gambling problem to "not spend money!"
Juliansgirl 3 weeks ago#18
Go fund me account coming soon
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AvantgardeAClue 3 weeks ago#20
BipBapBam posted...
SirRobX posted...
Tell it to that person, not us

Probably got downvoted to hell by the hive mind.


Actually even the comments telling him to get help are upvoted 

Don't act like that thread suddenly makes this place suck less lol

But yeah imagine not having self control
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poopadoop 3 weeks ago#21
Juliansgirl posted...
Go fund me account coming soon
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chunkyshtew 3 weeks ago#22
Gambling addictions are real. I'm surprised by how un-monitored gatcha's are. Slot machines and casino's for example are monitored and only usable by folks aged 18+ (or older depending on where you live), but gatcha's are similar and are accessible by anyone with access to a smartphone. 

I'm also disappointment to see some of the comments directed at this addicted young man. Props to him for recognizing he has an issue (the first step to battling an addiction) and taking steps towards recovery.
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CyberDragon10K 3 weeks ago#23
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MidMorningSol 3 weeks ago#24
I lol'd about the AC comment. 

It's sad that he doesn't have money to pay for this semester but at the same time, he needs to learn from this.
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rpgguy999 3 weeks ago#25
Remember kids, never spend more than you have.

At least this one learned sooner than latter.
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JDawgSA93 3 weeks ago#26
rpgguy999 posted...
Remember kids, never spend more than you have.

At least this one learned sooner than latter.

Made that mistake when I got my first ever pay check years ago. Was a rough few weeks then. But I've since saved up quite a bit.

Last year was bad when I realized I spent nearly $3000 on this stupid phone game. It didn't hurt me at all financially, but I still get a pang of pain when I think of that. People who spend money on the game should make sure to LOOK AT ALL THEIR RECEIPTS to get a clear picture of how much money they have spent. It all adds up tremendously...

Now the only way I'll spend money on this game again is to +10 my spring Xander. He has been very fun to use and he makes me smile.
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rpgguy999 3 weeks ago#27
JDawgSA93 posted...
rpgguy999 posted...
Remember kids, never spend more than you have.

At least this one learned sooner than latter.

Made that mistake when I got my first ever pay check years ago. Was a rough few weeks then. But I've since saved up quite a bit.

Last year was bad when I realized I spent nearly $3000 on this stupid phone game. It didn't hurt me at all financially, but I still get a pang of pain when I think of that. People who spend money on the game should make sure to LOOK AT ALL THEIR RECEIPTS to get a clear picture of how much money they have spent. It all adds up tremendously...

Now the only way I'll spend money on this game again is to +10 my spring Xander. He has been very fun to use and he makes smile.

Kinda scary but I believe 3000 dollars on FeH barely scratch whale tier status anymore.

Especially now that powercrepping is becoming more and more of a reality.
I have a bad habit of editing my posts...
Blarg143 3 weeks ago#28
JDawgSA93 posted...
rpgguy999 posted...
Remember kids, never spend more than you have.

At least this one learned sooner than latter.

Made that mistake when I got my first ever pay check years ago. Was a rough few weeks then. But I've since saved up quite a bit.

Last year was bad when I realized I spent nearly $3000 on this stupid phone game. It didn't hurt me at all financially, but I still get a pang of pain when I think of that. People who spend money on the game should make sure to LOOK AT ALL THEIR RECEIPTS to get a clear picture of how much money they have spent. It all adds up tremendously...

Now the only way I'll spend money on this game again is to +10 my spring Xander. He has been very fun to use and he makes me smile.


i was actually quite surprised by how much i spent over a year. $40 here and there definitely adds up. it's also not the way to spend. looking back on things, had i have known i was going to spend over a hundred dollars in the game, i would much rather have focused it on a single character than spread it out on multiples.
SugarFlakes 3 weeks ago#29
This is why I don't spend money on here. I have a hard enough time saving f2p orbs because of that similar mindset, I know if i get sucked in I'd do the same thing with money. Poor guy.
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albertojz356 3 weeks ago#30
The way I see it, games are worth 50-60 so anything above that is far too much. 4,000$? Ouch.

😓
Here we go, off the rails.
re_ru 3 weeks ago#31
I don't feel sorry for him, that was his choice. But can't you have some compassion/sympathy? He was stupid, but that's no reason to ridicule him over it.
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Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#32
albertojz356 posted...
The way I see it, games are worth 50-60 so anything above that is far too much. 4,000$? Ouch.

😓
some whales happily spend 100k a month on gacha games. its basically their petty cash allowance.
albertojz356 3 weeks ago#33
Kaze_no_Ou posted...
albertojz356 posted...
The way I see it, games are worth 50-60 so anything above that is far too much. 4,000$? Ouch.

😓
some whales happily spend 100k a month on gacha games. its basically their petty cash allowance.


Well I’m not rich, I can’t spend much on games. 😑

Wait 100K? 💀
Here we go, off the rails.
XFROSTY7 3 weeks ago#34
I used to spend way more on this game but ever since I found out my neighbor is a stripper I have been spending more time at her place. 

The jpegs she sends are way better than the ones IS has been putting out too. 10/10
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DreadKaiser 3 weeks ago#35
I've probably spend 2K or so over the games life

It's (usually) never more than the tips I've earned in that week so I've never been in the hole because of it.

now I don't have that job and am in college, not looking to get another quite yet so I am cutting spending.
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Ben111 3 weeks ago#36
I was furious and felt so stupid and wanted a refund after I spent 13$ and got only 3 star trash. But I knew that was how the predatory model worked so I just accepted it and moved on. Idk how people can spend 100+$, yet some people spend thousand?!?!? Even some random college kid. Smh. But seriously the orb prices are ridiculous. 4$ for 1 3% chance of getting the unit you want. Total rip off
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XFROSTY7 3 weeks ago#37
Ben111 posted...
I was furious and felt so stupid and wanted a refund after I spent 13$ and got only 3 star trash. But I knew that was how the predatory model worked so I just accepted it and moved on. Idk how people can spend 100+$, yet some people spend thousand?!?!? Even some random college kid. Smh. But seriously the orb prices are ridiculous. 4$ for 1 3% chance of getting the unit you want. Total rip off

Thousand?

You means thousands right? I know there are quite a few people on here in the 10k range as it stands
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Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#38
albertojz356 posted...
Kaze_no_Ou posted...
albertojz356 posted...
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some whales happily spend 100k a month on gacha games. its basically their petty cash allowance.


Well I’m not rich, I can’t spend much on games. 😑

Wait 100K? 💀
yeah but they likely got most of what they wanted at a given time if not merging a unit to +10 for each new release.
DreadKaiser 3 weeks ago#39
Ben111 posted...
I was furious and felt so stupid and wanted a refund after I spent 13$ and got only 3 star trash. But I knew that was how the predatory model worked so I just accepted it and moved on. Idk how people can spend 100+$, yet some people spend thousand?!?!? Even some random college kid. Smh. But seriously the orb prices are ridiculous. 4$ for 1 3% chance of getting the unit you want. Total rip off


Pretty easily. in my case I had a job and no expenses. so I had a lot of Disposable income that I didn't mind spending here
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Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#40
disposable for now
then he gets married
later divorced
and is sued for said disposable income
LOL
Sparkey528 3 weeks ago#41
Geez and I thought I spent a lot of video games. At least I can sell mine or trade them if I decide I don't want them anymore. Well I hope he learned his lesson.
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Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#42
Sparkey528 posted...
Geez and I thought I spent a lot of video games. At least I can sell mine or trade them if I decide I don't want them anymore. Well I hope he learned his lesson.
Nope
quite the opposite now he learned to fear money and that he lacks self control.
The result will be he makes even worse financial decisions based on that fear
Umbreon 3 weeks ago#43
I'm not sure if the millennial part is worth bringing up.

Dude got addicted to gambling and made a stupid mistake. That's what I take from this story and that could happen to anyone with poor self control.
chunkyshtew 3 weeks ago#44
re_ru posted...
I don't feel sorry for him, that was his choice. But can't you have some compassion/sympathy? He was stupid, but that's no reason to ridicule him over it.


My thoughts exactly!
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ReinhardtPence 3 weeks ago#45
Kaze_no_Ou posted...
disposable for now
then he gets married
later divorced
and is sued for said disposable income
LOL


Easy solution to that
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elidodog 3 weeks ago#46
Street_Overlord posted...
I thought this was some 5th grader at lunch, not a college student.

Idiot should have been educated enough to realize what he was doing.


Considering that it was labeled with "milennial," it couldn't have been a 5th grader.

https://thecollegeinvestor.com/19793/millennial-age-range/

IE; if you were born after 9/11, you're definitely not being categorized as a millennial. Someone in 5th grade definitely falls many years short of that.

On topic: People need better self control. :( Yes, he should have been educated enough to control himself with logic rather than impulses.
Mortoast 3 weeks ago#47
No sympathy at all for these kinds of people, not my fault someone has no self control.
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Brettsky128 3 weeks ago#48
This is what happens to kids to don't understand the concept of negative consequences.
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Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#49
Umbreon posted...
I'm not sure if the millennial part is worth bringing up.

Dude got addicted to gambling and made a stupid mistake. That's what I take from this story and that could happen to anyone with poor self control.
it's not. It's a simple way to incite "us vs them" mentality.
CeruleanGamer 3 weeks ago#50
He bit more than he can chew. Only people with 6 figure incomes like me should be whaling that much....
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    Dyshonest 3 weeks ago#51
    BipBapBam posted...
    SirRobX posted...
    Tell it to that person, not us

    Probably got downvoted to hell by the hive mind.
    lol @ the notion that GFAQs isn't ridiculously circlejerky

    it's more circlejerky than 4ch and reddit combined
    chrono625 3 weeks ago#52
    CeruleanGamer posted...
    He bit more than he can chew. Only people with 6 figure incomes like me should be whaling that much....


    I have a dual income situation and well over 6 figures.

    I would never spend 4k on one game no matter how great it was.
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    Snorlax_exlax 3 weeks ago#53
    ...it took $4000 for his brain to click in and go "hey wait a minute"?

    not $500, 1000, or even 2000?

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    chrono625 3 weeks ago#54
    4k is bad, but it's not 16k bad like this one guy who spent that much on FFBE.
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    BadDecisions 3 weeks ago#55
    This guy is obviously fucking stupid and irresponsible, 
    but really fuck our credit system. 
    A college kid shouldn't be able to do this, but it's profitable for the credit card companies and banks so they just fuckin' approve anything and don't intervene when shit obviously goes bad. 
    He needs to take out a small student loan, work as much as he can while he's not in class, and plow through college as fast as he can.
    Trickiest 3 weeks ago#56
    I spent 8k double the amount he spent then I realized I spent too much on this game.
    Now I am 2 month f2p status.
    At least I learned my lesson. Never spend money on gambling again!!!
    KishinZephrite 3 weeks ago#57
    I wonder how my units stack up to his while I spent less than $30.

    If I could say one thing to the dude, I'd say "You ain't CG, baby!"
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    Playsaver 3 weeks ago#58
    Tell your story to the news (local and or national). Nothing gets your money back easier then bad press. I think it is really bad that you could even spend that much money on one game in such a short amount of time. This is so very close to gambling. These types of games prey on the same sort of response feelings that gambler gets when they gamble to get people to spend money they shouldn't be spending. It might not be legally the same as gambling, but it is having the same sorts of results.
    Taiphlosion 3 weeks ago#59
    If that person is still in high school, he's not a millenial

    Millenials are people born between 80 and 96
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    iGouger 3 weeks ago#60
    Hope he's not majoring in something useless like Fine Arts Studies or Gender Studies, since he'll at least need some sort of job to pay for that.
    chrono625 3 weeks ago#61
    Here's the FFBE story. This one is legit sad and I mean it in a way where you will empathize with the dude.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/7jmezv/a_whale_of_a_tale/

    BadDecisions posted...
    This guy is obviously fucking stupid and irresponsible, 
    but really fuck our credit system. 
    A college kid shouldn't be able to do this, but it's profitable for the credit card companies and banks so they just fuckin' approve anything and don't intervene when shit obviously goes bad. 
    He needs to take out a small student loan, work as much as he can while he's not in class, and plow through college as fast as he can.


    It's not the credit card companies fault a college kid charged video game currency on his account lol.

    It's not their duty to tell you what is and isn't a smart purchase.
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    ReinhardtPence 3 weeks ago#62
    Taiphlosion posted...
    If that person is still in high school, he's not a millenial

    Millenials are people born between 80 and 96


    Do high schools have tuition
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    BadDecisions 3 weeks ago#63
    chrono625 posted...

    It's not the credit card companies fault a college kid charged video game currency on his account lol.
    It's not their duty to tell you what is and isn't a smart purchase.

    I fully agree, personal responsibility is key, but he shouldn't have ever been approved for a credit line where he can do this kind of damage if he's a college kid that obviously can't afford it.
    chrono625 3 weeks ago#64
    BadDecisions posted...
    chrono625 posted...

    It's not the credit card companies fault a college kid charged video game currency on his account lol.
    It's not their duty to tell you what is and isn't a smart purchase.

    I fully agree, personal responsibility is key, but he shouldn't have ever been approved for a credit line where he can do this kind of damage if he's a college kid that obviously can't afford it.


    He may have had that credit line already. Unless I missed something where he opened an account JUST to charge currency to it. But even then, it is still not the duty of the credit card company to dictate what someone can and cannot purchase with it.

    I have seen many, many college kids with a card linked to their parents for emergencies. 

    This is a huge life lesson for this kid and fortunately it happened when he didn't have a family and bills like a mortgage or heat to pay for.

    I wholly blame companies who produce these gacha games.

    I hate the whole gacha system where you can sink thousands into the game and never have all of the content. It's deliberately despicable all in the name of profit.
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    Umbreon 3 weeks ago#65
    Snorlax_exlax posted...
    ...it took $4000 for his brain to click in and go "hey wait a minute"?

    not $500, 1000, or even 2000?

    fpVowqC


    The issue is, you're trying to think logically. An addicted brain isn't thinking logically, it's thinking " Isn't this fun? More more! Shhh, don't worry about how much...." It's the same reason some people lose it all in Vegas. They don't think " I should stop spending if I keep losing." and instead think "You can win it all back, just keep going..." until they hit 0, the high wears off and they suddenly realized how deep a hole they dug.

    Some people just have an addictive personality. Doesn't mean they're dumb, but they can unintentionally do dumb things in certain situations. Some with greater concequences than others. 

    Just ask anyone who ever got really drink if they never did something dumb under the influence.
    Wanderer2691 3 weeks ago#66
    Umbreon posted...
    Snorlax_exlax posted...
    ...it took $4000 for his brain to click in and go "hey wait a minute"?

    not $500, 1000, or even 2000?

    fpVowqC


    The issue is, you're trying to think logically. An addicted brain isn't thinking logically, it's thinking " Isn't this fun? More more! Shhh, don't worry about how much...." It's the same reason some people lose it all in Vegas. They don't think " I should stop spending if I keep losing." and instead think "You can win it all back, just keep going..." until they hit 0, the high wears off and they suddenly realized how deep a hole they dug.

    Some people just have an addictive personality. Doesn't mean they're dumb, but they can unintentionally do dumb things in certain situations. Some with greater concequences than others. 

    Just ask anyone who ever got really drink if they never did something dumb under the influence.

    This.
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    MstrBldr 3 weeks ago#67
    I used to spend on this game until I realized the powercreep lol. You can spend $1000s to get a +10 only to find out 2 months later that your +10 has gone from a top tier to mid tier unit. This game has way too much powercreep
    KariyaLollipop 3 weeks ago#68
    Stories like this just make me sad. It's the seedy side of mobile gaming, that intersection between addiction/poor impulse control and gacha that wrecks people. Granted I can't know this person's story in full, but I've known far too many people fall into this sorta thing to some extent or another to think of it as anything but tragic.
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    CyberDragon10K 3 weeks ago#69
    MstrBldr posted...
    I used to spend on this game until I realized the powercreep lol. You can spend $1000s to get a +10 only to find out 2 months later that your +10 has gone from a top tier to mid tier unit. This game has way too much powercreep

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    Taiphlosion 3 weeks ago#70
    ReinhardtPence posted...
    Taiphlosion posted...
    If that person is still in high school, he's not a millenial

    Millenials are people born between 80 and 96


    Do high schools have tuition

    I just skimmed the OP
    That said by now most college freshmen are not millenials either
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    Wanderer2691 3 weeks ago#71
    Taiphlosion posted...
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    Do high schools have tuition

    I just skimmed the OP
    That said by now most college freshmen are not millenials either

    ‘97 for me. Can confirm: in my third year of college.
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    Mephantom 3 weeks ago#72
    chrono625 posted...
    4k is bad, but it's not 16k bad like this one guy who spent that much on FFBE.


    It's all relative though, I'd say this is worse because the 16k guy from what I read at least had means to pay off the debt.

    This guy is spending 4k that he doesn't even have and no where to get it from.
    thesheriff33 3 weeks ago#73
    I probably sound like a jerk, but I don't feel bad. 

    "The only reason I haven't deleted it off of my phone as well as my account data is because I hope that Nintendo will give me a refund and delete my account."

    That quote frustrates me to no end. He asked for a refund (which is fine) and even after being told no still thinks he's getting one. Nintendo is not liable for poor decision making. Plus read the quotes somehow it's always someone else's fault but not the guy constantly pumping money in.

    Sad story all brought on by poor money management skills
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    chrono625 3 weeks ago#74
    Mephantom posted...
    chrono625 posted...
    4k is bad, but it's not 16k bad like this one guy who spent that much on FFBE.


    It's all relative though, I'd say this is worse because the 16k guy from what I read at least had means to pay off the debt.

    This guy is spending 4k that he doesn't even have and no where to get it from.


    16k the guy has a family. He has children. 

    I'd rather be 4k in the hole as a stupid teen/young adult than 16k in the hole as a guy with a wife and kids.

    He had means to pay off the debt through consolidation and transferring his debt to a 0% interest card. There are fees involved with doing that which are usually percentages based on the amount you're transferring.

    Even more so, it wasn't just about the money. His wife was blindsided over the fact he spent 16k on a video game. So it definitely wasn't an amount he could pay back in a month or two, he was going to need a few years to pay it back. That can set you back big time.
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    DreadKaiser 3 weeks ago#75
    CyberDragon10K posted...
    MstrBldr posted...
    I used to spend on this game until I realized the powercreep lol. You can spend $1000s to get a +10 only to find out 2 months later that your +10 has gone from a top tier to mid tier unit. This game has way too much powercreep

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    tidus346 3 weeks ago#76
    i have no sympathy when i was in college, i bought games i really shouldn't and spent money online game transactions but i always had my "fun" money and my money for food/rent/college fee seperate, i regret the money i spent but i think u also learn something from the mistakes.
    HackedDragonite 3 weeks ago#77
    Street_Overlord posted...
    I thought this was some 5th grader at lunch, not a college student.

    Idiot should have been educated enough to realize what he was doing.
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    albertojz356 3 weeks ago#78
    chrono625 posted...
    Mephantom posted...
    chrono625 posted...
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    It's all relative though, I'd say this is worse because the 16k guy from what I read at least had means to pay off the debt.

    This guy is spending 4k that he doesn't even have and no where to get it from.


    16k the guy has a family. He has children. 

    I'd rather be 4k in the hole as a stupid teen/young adult than 16k in the hole as a guy with a wife and kids.

    He had means to pay off the debt through consolidation and transferring his debt to a 0% interest card. There are fees involved with doing that which are usually percentages based on the amount you're transferring.

    Even more so, it wasn't just about the money. His wife was blindsided over the fact he spent 16k on a video game. So it definitely wasn't an amount he could pay back in a month or two, he was going to need a few years to pay it back. That can set you back big time.


    I wonder if his wife divorced him.
    Here we go, off the rails.
    Tidus1012 3 weeks ago#79
    Well, anyone spending that kind of money is a complete idiot, even if they are rich, still idiots.
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    CeruleanGamer 3 weeks ago#80
    My jam back in college was Hearthstone and League of Legends and the later half Overwatch. I still play those games and spent 4-5 figures on them. If I decide to sell my accounts today, I can pretty much get my money back due to exclusive skins/cardbacks and beta stuff that I have.
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    Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#81
    Don't see why someone would be dumb for spending if they're rich and they literally have enough disposable income to afford to drop thousands on a game.

    "They should use that money to invest!"

    They're already rich, and they're probably already investing money.

    "They should use that money to pay off-"

    Pay off what? They're rich, they already got their bills paid off.
    poopadoop 3 weeks ago#82
    albertojz356 posted...
    chrono625 posted...
    Mephantom posted...
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    16k the guy has a family. He has children. 

    I'd rather be 4k in the hole as a stupid teen/young adult than 16k in the hole as a guy with a wife and kids.

    He had means to pay off the debt through consolidation and transferring his debt to a 0% interest card. There are fees involved with doing that which are usually percentages based on the amount you're transferring.

    Even more so, it wasn't just about the money. His wife was blindsided over the fact he spent 16k on a video game. So it definitely wasn't an amount he could pay back in a month or two, he was going to need a few years to pay it back. That can set you back big time.


    I wonder if his wife divorced him.

    She should have, I know I would

    She was probably taking care of the kids by herself and did 90% of the housework while he was wasting their income on anime girls
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    Dysias6 3 weeks ago#83
    Oh gods, his name is Edge Lord. Are you sure this isn't bait?
    Wanderer2691 3 weeks ago#84
    Dysias6 posted...
    Oh gods, his name is Edge Lord. Are you sure this isn't bait?
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    albertojz356 3 weeks ago#85
    I would have divorced too.
    Here we go, off the rails.
    chrono625 3 weeks ago#86
    poopadoop posted...
    albertojz356 posted...
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    I wonder if his wife divorced him.

    She should have, I know I would

    She was probably taking care of the kids by herself and did 90% of the housework while he was wasting their income on anime girls


    I don't think she did, cause he admitted everything to her and apparently gave up the game and made efforts to pay the debt down.

    And the guy had a serious addiction. When you get married you make a vow to each other to take care of each other. I'm not saying you have to stick with each other, but shit ain't perfect. I know i'm not. I would never leave my wife if she ever hit a bump in the road, i'd hope she'd do the same for me.

    Now if he was still spending thousands and not seeking any help. I wouldn't fault her for leaving him.
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    Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#87
    Dysias6 posted...
    Oh gods, his name is Edge Lord. Are you sure this isn't bait?


    Eh, the post itself doesn't really have anything baity in it.
    Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#88
    iGouger posted...
    Hope he's not majoring in something useless like Fine Arts Studies or Gender Studies, since he'll at least need some sort of job to pay for that.
    major in medicine minor in economics
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    Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#89
    chrono625 posted...
    And the guy had a serious addiction. When you get married you make a vow to each other to take care of each other. I'm not saying you have to stick with each other, but shit ain't perfect. I know i'm not. I would never leave my wife if she ever hit a bump in the road, i'd hope she'd do the same for me.

    Now if he was still spending thousands and not seeking any help. I wouldn't fault her for leaving him.


    *Nod*

    For better and for worse

    Dude fessed up that he had a problem. He needed help and reached for it, nothing wrong with that. Your partner falls down, you pull them back up, not leave them in the mud. Though yes, if they're not even trying to get help that is indeed a lost cause.
    yukiartsa 3 weeks ago#90
    i can understand this guy's regret with throwing so much into feh; i was like that myself i barely play feh nowadays, but i like to poke through the gfaqs board regardless before a discussion with my parents made me realise that i was too into this, and i had to back off.

    that was about a month ago. since then i've spent less than a hundred in total, when before, i would've spent something like, a hundred a week on mmo's, being a high student who didn't have to worry about college funds and all that.

    coming out and admitting that "hey, i was dumb enough to invest in a game like this" is brave imo. i was too afraid to mention this to my parents, afraid they'd chew my head off. but openly asking for sympathy like this guy is pathetic.

    i can relate to being annoyed about refunds; i played a game, purchased some stuff, but it had no given transfer id, so when i switched devices, i couldn't take my data/purchases to my new game. when i asked the devs about it, they told me a refund wasn't possible. aside from feeling ripped off, since i was being cut off from my original data because i deleted the app, and was unable to be compensated for this, i felt pretty annoyed.

    i made sure to leave a review explaining to people about this, and for them to be careful before they make the same dumb mistake i did. 

    the company was a small one, so i can accept that providing a refund or keeping hold of individual games might've been difficult; the fact that nintendo has managed to keep tabs on accounts is pretty impressive to me, seeing how bnei has such difficulties getting back to people with lost games and whatever, even if they've had plenty of experience in the smartphone market many, many complaints about the help service of bnei have been ignored over the years

    but for some sour fan who didn't think of the consequences beforehand, didn't take into consideration his situation at the time (as a student paying for his college tuition and all), i struggle to accept this.

    i work at a supermarket, and the number of times people have tried to return an item because "they changed their mind" is ridiculous. your decision to purchase was spurred by impulse. particularly in feh, when you're given numerous free currency, the purchasing impulse should arise if you're unsatisfied, which makes it difficult to manage, unlike if you're shopping in person, and think "this looks nice" before you have second thoughts.

    i regret spending so much on mmo's, but i'm not about to go and beg the devs to reimburse me after the fact; i just accept this and move on. this guy has to do the same, for both his future (knowing that he was wrong, and to not repeat these mistakes), and for his dignity -- i can't imagine the criticism he's receiving for making such a pathetic cry for sympathy online and the few replies i've seen are already pretty harsh, i don't want to read any more than i have
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    sinxsader 3 weeks ago#91
    lmao
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    Tidus1012 3 weeks ago#92
    @Kaze_no_Ou 4k bucks
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    poopadoop 3 weeks ago#93
    Dark Young Link posted...
    chrono625 posted...
    And the guy had a serious addiction. When you get married you make a vow to each other to take care of each other. I'm not saying you have to stick with each other, but shit ain't perfect. I know i'm not. I would never leave my wife if she ever hit a bump in the road, i'd hope she'd do the same for me.

    Now if he was still spending thousands and not seeking any help. I wouldn't fault her for leaving him.


    *Nod*

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    Worse can be an understatement

    Personally if my spouse wasted that much money on a game, I see it as prioritizing games over their family’s well-being. They dragged everyone else into the mud.

    If she wants to stay with him then I can’t stop her, though, obviously.
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    Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#94
    yukiartsa posted...
    i work at a supermarket, and the number of times people have tried to return an item because "they changed their mind" is ridiculous.


    Can vouch that this is absolutely true. It's also the preferred scenario, as opposed to some asshole just putting a perishable on a random shelf and having it spoil because most stores don't have employees looking over every isle every waking minute >_>
    yukiartsa 3 weeks ago#95
    Dark Young Link posted...
    Don't see why someone would be dumb for spending if they're rich and they literally have enough disposable income to afford to drop thousands on a game.


    you make it sound like (to me, at least), that it's alright to throw disposable income into a game, when you could be doing better things with it.

    i'm not saying you should donate it all to saving an endangered species or anything, but throwing money into an mmo is kind of like a claw machine. even if there's something you want, it's unlikely you'll get it unless you throw time and money into it, and even then, what do you gain from it? it's not like you'll get back what you've used/lost in the process. 

    rather than throw "disposable income" into something that ultimately will become irrelevant, forgotten, or any synonyms for "unwanted" and "worthless", i think (personally speaking) that money should be used for something that can be used, shared, and enjoyed.

    "Happiness is something that's to be shared between people. It doesn't matter how good the food you eat its, or how big the house you live in is, if there's no one to share that happiness with, it's like you don't have any at all."

    this is one of my utmost favourite quotes, and i feel it can be applied here; even if you get what you want in your game, if you can't share that joy with someone else, it's as if you don't have any happiness at all. sometimes the happiest people in the world are actually the saddest, y'know?

    if i had a fully disposable income, i'd make certain i used it to build/own/make something that i could share with people. it's not like using all my money to max a character in my game would please others as much as it would me, right? what would it do for them, even?

    idk, i don't mean to preach like i'm some all-knowing saint, but i felt the urge to bring this up...
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    Emmy_Altava 3 weeks ago#96
    It's perfectly fine to throw disposable income into things that will ultimately become irrelevant, forgotten, worthless, or so forth.

    When you are actively using your disposable income to hurt other people, however, you should not be entertained. And that's exactly what you are doing when you are shifting the industry toward games that cater to 1-10% of their audiences at the expense of literally everyone else.

    There is no problem with caprice. There is every problem with malice. And whales are inherently malicious and should be treated as such.
    chrono625 3 weeks ago#97
    poopadoop posted...
    Dark Young Link posted...
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    *Nod*

    For better and for worse

    Worse can be an understatement

    Personally if my spouse wasted that much money on a game, I see it as prioritizing games over their family’s well-being. They dragged everyone else into the mud.

    If she wants to stay with him then I can’t stop her, though, obviously.


    It isn't as if he just plopped down 16k right away and said take my money now. He started with a few bucks and kept chasing and chasing and chasing. He developed an addiction. No one starts off wanting to be addicted to something.

    If you're spouse started a hobby, an innocent one, with spending a small amount of dollars here and there you wouldn't bat an eye. If she became addicted to the point where she was spending tons of money and was too embarrassed or scared to come forward you would drop her immediately if there was no ill intention?

    Gacha games prey on the weak willed. As the other poster said, the 1-10% of whales who spend tens of thousands on this game and most who can do so without feeling it really, really hurt those who cannot and were sucked into it. I hate regulation, but gacha games are straight up gambling. What's even worse is that whatever you do "win" cannot be traded or sold for any kind of actual value. Which makes it EVEN WORSE!

    The whole design is disgusting and as others have pointed out, the power creep makes people keep chasing and wanting to be "the best". It promotes such a vile system that I get disgusted playing them myself. But I at least am f2p. I made that vow after playing FFRK.
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    gfrequency 3 weeks ago#98
    Where are you even getting "millennial" from?
    You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
    Biochemic 3 weeks ago#99
    Hi, I'm Roger. I would like you to buy boatloads of stuff in that fictional universe that we created, which is the best fictional universe EVER (well, until the last one comes out anyway).

    You bought too much, using your real not-so-hard-earned money? This is not my concern, as you have no doubt derived temporary, ephemeral pleasure from your purchases. Now, BUY SOME MORE. I need a new Ferrari.
    Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#100
    yukiartsa posted...
    you make it sound like (to me, at least), that it's alright to throw disposable income into a game, when you could be doing better things with it.


    It is. Because you can spend your money how you want to(Or disposable income rather, because most people would rather not have to pay bills but have to for obvious reasons). 

    It's fine if you think someone is spending their money in a poor way. I myself would rather spend my money on other things than this game. That doesn't mean that people who are okay with spending on this game are dumb.

    yukiartsa posted...
    rather than throw "disposable income" into something that ultimately will become irrelevant, forgotten, or any synonyms for "unwanted" and "worthless", i think (personally speaking) that money should be used for something that can be used, shared, and enjoyed.


    I mean... if you want to get technical, few things don't fall under that category. You could spend your money going to college and becoming a doctor... but one day you'll die and so will every person that was ever your patient, so that money is "wasted" on things that wasn't going to last.

    That time you went out to a restaurant and paid a large sum for delicious food? Well you digested that food and eventually disposed of said food and you became hungry again so is eating anything that isn't ramen a waste?

    As for sharing... Sharing is a good trait, but you don't have to do everything for other people. Sometimes you want to treat yourself. Sometimes you have to do something for just you. 

    Happiness is crazy subjective, you can decide what happiness is to you, but you can't decide for other people what makes them happy.
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      Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#101
      Emmy_Altava posted...
      There is no problem with caprice. There is every problem with malice. And whales are inherently malicious and should be treated as such.


      I wish to live in your world, if you believe people spending large amounts of money on a game counts as "malice".
      RenamonFOX 3 weeks ago#102
      What is the exact purpose of this topic?_?

      Dark Young Link posted...
      I wish to live in your world, if you believe people spending large amounts of money on a game counts as "malice".

      No you don't. Generalizing is bad. Especially generalized hatred.
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      chrono625 3 weeks ago#103
      RenamonFOX posted...
      What is the exact purpose of this topic?_?


      I see validity in making people aware of how addicting and damaging gachas can be.
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      Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#104
      chrono625 posted...
      RenamonFOX posted...
      What is the exact purpose of this topic?_?


      I see validity in making people aware of how addicting and damaging gachas can be.


      There is.

      TC seemed to be more interested in mockery however.
      Meiou_Izanami 3 weeks ago#105
      AYY LMAO

      this is why you don't whale, kids
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      blasster 3 weeks ago#106
      This is how FEH still alive and well, even if you all tell people not to spend. :P

      Well, I guess on slightly serious matter; I dunno if I should feel sorry for him, since as mentioned, he is old enough to know the consequences of virtual gambling / gacha game like this. Yet still wasted his money instead of getting his real life priority straight (which is to pay the tuition or whatever).

      In retrospect, it is a good thing FEH didn't refund him, so that he can get crushed by the weight of responsibility and hopefully learned a lesson not to do this again. 

      If FEH refund him, he would probably be stupid and do this again, thinking he can bail out by just refunding after spending irresponsibly in near future. People need to learn a harsh lesson in life after doing something stupid. That's how you grow up, in a way.

      I feel bad for the parents instead, not this kid who spent the money.
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      Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#107
      Why feel bad for the parents?
      chrono625 3 weeks ago#108
      Dark Young Link posted...
      Why feel bad for the parents?


      Because perhaps they thought they raised a smart kid?
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      blasster 3 weeks ago#109
      Well, wouldn't you hate it if your kid wasting money on something useless like 2d waifus instead of paying college?

      Or if you want harsher answer;
      chrono625 posted...
      Because perhaps they thought they raised a smart kid?

      Yeah.
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      AuraChannelerCh 3 weeks ago#110
      My giant near 700k stash of feathers is there to console me by promoting worthy heroes with the best IVs in case my pulling sessions are downright horrendous.

      At least the guy managed to recognize things before they got worse, but asking for a refund is impossible. I know there is a fine print somewhere transactions are final if they weren't mishandled during the process.
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      HoshinoKatta 3 weeks ago#111
      I just gotta have those talking .jpegs, man.
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      Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#112
      blasster posted...
      Well, wouldn't you hate it if your kid wasting money on something useless like 2d waifus instead of paying college?


      So what? They feel bad? That's it. That's just pride.

      The kid on the other hand feels bad, AND has to deal with a gambling addiction. I think they have it worse.
      CeruleanGamer 3 weeks ago#113
      It's called "disposable income". Joe Schmoe and Henry the High Schooler shouldn't tell you how to spend it.
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      Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#114
      Tidus1012 posted...
      @Kaze_no_Ou 4k bucks

      some people look at that as $4 to them its okay to spend $4 on a game and an $80 toy isnt wasteful.
      its just a maserati they got because it was shiny and its tuesday
      Roxborough4Ever 3 weeks ago#115
      i hate how people call this "gambling".....gambling implies you might get some sort of return on your investment....with this you get a jpeg on a game whose servers are going to be turned off 10 yrs from now
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      MasterTurtle 3 weeks ago#116
      Dark Young Link posted...
      Don't see why someone would be dumb for spending if they're rich and they literally have enough disposable income to afford to drop thousands on a game.

      "They should use that money to invest!"

      They're already rich, and they're probably already investing money.

      "They should use that money to pay off-"

      Pay off what? They're rich, they already got their bills paid off.


      i mean, they're hurting gaming for everyone else by incentivizing developers to make gambling simulators fine-tuned to squeeze more money out of people instead of games

      but you're allowed to be a bad person I guess
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      Umbreon 3 weeks ago#117
      Gamble as in risk.

      Also you could theoretically sell your account.
      LuBuFengXian 3 weeks ago#118
      Roxborough4Ever posted...
      i hate how people call this "gambling".....gambling implies you might get some sort of return on your investment....with this you get a jpeg on a game whose servers are going to be turned off 10 yrs from now


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      Torka 3 weeks ago#119
      Let the suckers get scammed.
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      Umbreon 3 weeks ago#120
      MasterTurtle posted...
      Dark Young Link posted...
      Don't see why someone would be dumb for spending if they're rich and they literally have enough disposable income to afford to drop thousands on a game.

      "They should use that money to invest!"

      They're already rich, and they're probably already investing money.

      "They should use that money to pay off-"

      Pay off what? They're rich, they already got their bills paid off.


      i mean, they're hurting gaming for everyone else by incentivizing developers to make gambling simulators fine-tuned to squeeze more money out of people instead of games

      but you're allowed to be a bad person I guess


      So you're blaming the players, instead of the companies who do it in the first place?

      Its not like the companies would magically not try to make money off us if the whales aren't around. The literal reason this game exists I'd to make money.

      But yes, I'm a "bad person" because I believe people should spent their disposable income the way they want instead of the way some random on the internet thinks they should.
      Umbreon 3 weeks ago#121
      Oh wait, I probably read that wrong.

      People who spend money aren't bad people. At least not for something as trivial as this. People who spend money that fund actual terrorist organization s would be a better example of a bad person.

      Otherwise, you seem to be giving greedy companies a free pass and blaming the players. Makes no sense.
      dli17 3 weeks ago#122
      Why does the title of this read like those Millennials Destroy the Diamond Ring Industry, Buy Too Much Avocado Toast, Still Live in Parents' Basements articles
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      mariopaper 3 weeks ago#123
      Umbreon posted...
      The literal reason this game exists I'd to make money.

      99.9% of games fall into this category.
      MasterTurtle 3 weeks ago#124
      Umbreon posted...
      So you're blaming the players, instead of the companies who do it in the first place?


      i blame both

      the companies moreso, but it would be impossible for them to operate if nobody supported their anti-consumer practices in the first place
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      legendrider 3 weeks ago#125
      The lesson here is that gambling is (and has always been) awful, and you shouldn’t let yourself get carried away with it.
      Especially when you have actual life issues to deal with.
      Don't play just to win, play for the fun of it.
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      IsGregor 3 weeks ago#126
      This proving that redditors are mentally speaking lower than the average human.
      King sucks, plain and simple.
      Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#127
      mariopaper posted...
      Umbreon posted...
      The literal reason this game exists I'd to make money.

      99.9% of games fall into this category.


      Why yes they do!

      MasterTurtle posted...
      i blame both

      the companies moreso, but it would be impossible for them to operate if nobody supported their anti-consumer practices in the first place


      It looked like your post was implying otherwise. As if the companies somehow had no choice but to be greedy because of those darn whales making them.
      PuzDra 3 weeks ago#128
      This is mostly due to bad parenting (and some poor genes)
      sephatu 3 weeks ago#129
      That's Gen Z. Millenials should be out of school and have jobs by now
      chrono625 3 weeks ago#130
      Roxborough4Ever posted...
      i hate how people call this "gambling".....gambling implies you might get some sort of return on your investment....with this you get a jpeg on a game whose servers are going to be turned off 10 yrs from now

      Its absolutely gambling.

      You're putting money up and hoping for a beneficial outcome that is not predetermined.
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      Zantetsuken_14 3 weeks ago#131
      albertojz356 posted...
      Kaze_no_Ou posted...
      albertojz356 posted...
       show hidden quote(s)
      some whales happily spend 100k a month on gacha games. its basically their petty cash allowance.


      Well I’m not rich, I can’t spend much on games. 😑

      Wait 100K? 💀


      But what about the African children?
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      shawnwalker 3 weeks ago#132
      Wanderer2691 posted...
      CrescentShadow posted...
      lmao sucks to be them

      This. Normally I'm all for sticking up for the little guy economically, but there's a fine line between unfortunate circumstances and fucking stupidity.

      Amen. @Wanderer2691 Why would anyone feel sorry for this dumbass?!? Gacha games=gotcha games. Gacha games are glorified gambling. I guess he thought if he gave a sob story they'd feel sorry for him... Gotcha sucker!
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      MasterTurtle 3 weeks ago#133
      Zantetsuken_14 posted...
      albertojz356 posted...
      Kaze_no_Ou posted...
       show hidden quote(s)


      Well I’m not rich, I can’t spend much on games. 😑

      Wait 100K? 💀


      But what about the African children?


      if they have no bread, let them eat seasonal Lucina variations
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      vermillion_wolf 3 weeks ago#134
      This is why you don't spend college money on a mobile game.
      Anxiety sucks.
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      Snorlax_exlax 3 weeks ago#135
      MasterTurtle posted...
      Zantetsuken_14 posted...
      But what about the African children?


      if they have no bread, let them eat seasonal Lucina variations

      oh my god
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      LegendofLegaia 3 weeks ago#136
      Umbreon posted...
      I'm not sure if the millennial part is worth bringing up.

      It's hip and trendy to pretend that everything wrong with society is due to millennials.

      Don't worry though, many millenials will carry the torch for their stupid parents and start shitting on gen z for dumb shit, though I'm having a hard time imagining something dumber than getting mad at millennials for not buying Applebee's enough. The cycle will continue as long as people remain narcissistic and stupid.
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      Sw0rd_27 3 weeks ago#137
      Sounds like Cerulean
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      RandoGamerKid 3 weeks ago#138
      Brettsky128 posted...
      This is what happens to kids to don't understand the concept of negative consequences.
      ReinhardtPence 3 weeks ago#139
      MasterTurtle posted...
      Zantetsuken_14 posted...
      albertojz356 posted...
       show hidden quote(s)


      But what about the African children?


      if they have no bread, let them eat seasonal Lucina variations


      this is a good post
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      Nehpets700 3 weeks ago#140
      @BadDecisions posted...
      This guy is obviously fucking stupid and irresponsible, 
      but really fuck our credit system. 
      A college kid shouldn't be able to do this, but it's profitable for the credit card companies and banks so they just fuckin' approve anything and don't intervene when shit obviously goes bad. 
      He needs to take out a small student loan, work as much as he can while he's not in class, and plow through college as fast as he can.

      Your username doesn't check out at all.
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      shawnwalker 3 weeks ago#141
      Could've went to school and got some much needed edumacation. I bet those +10 merges will keep a fool full!

      Gambling is an addiction, but Ron White said it best: You can't fix stupid.
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      redline65 3 weeks ago#142
      Sw0rd_27 posted...
      Sounds like Cerulean

      Except he actually got his $1000 refunded. And got to keep all his stuff.
      BKmk2 3 weeks ago#143
      should've refunded harder like the rest of us :)
      Lol
      ReinhardtPence 3 weeks ago#144
      BKmk2 posted...
      should've refunded harder like the rest of us :)


      kek
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      bunbunpowah 3 weeks ago#145
      There's a jumping off point and $4000 would certainly cause me to quit the game. I've probably spent close to $500 or so already (I don't wanna check) and I regret all of my purchases except the $4 pack. I doubt they'll do that again.

      Regardless I'm just waiting for IS to give me a reason to quit and it looks like it might happen at some point. Gacha is hell
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      Kaze_no_Ou 3 weeks ago#146
      Umbreon posted...
      Gamble as in risk.

      Also you could theoretically sell your account.
      where at?

      As for gambling it is. risk for gain its just that the gains here are so nonconsequential its funny to watch people risk things.
      That said people do worse investing all their money and money they don't own on insider tips on the stock market.

      When you lose your home I'll be laughing only because you wagered it on a "what if".
      JCoconut 3 weeks ago#147
      Lmao those millennials.

      Just can't like them.
      cbrnjs 3 weeks ago#148
      Waifus > education lul
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      Dark Young Link 3 weeks ago#149
      Kaze_no_Ou posted...
      where at?


      Oh I don't know personally. I just know that people do buy accounts because it's a popular game so of course they do.
      JCoconut 3 weeks ago#150
      StillPainting posted...
      Dude just doesn't get it, even after he typed it out and posted an edit; he still thinks his sob story is enough to warrant a refund. Good lord, kids these days. Entitlement is so crazy.

      So much 
      .... 
      This
      1. Boards
      2. Fire Emblem Heroes 
      3. Millennial spends $4,000 while in school in FEH, has to pay, wants a refund now